"Are we prepared to promote conditions in which the living contact with God can be reestablished? For our lives today have become godless to the point of complete vacuity. God is no longer with us in the conscious sense of the word. He is denied, ignored, excluded from every claim to have a part in our daily life." - Alfred Delp, S.J.

Tuesday, March 08, 2016

And this is how that works. The Archdiocese of Denver advises prudence and caution as regards Charlie Johnston's messages.

Charlie Johnston


And Charlie Johnston cooperated with the archdiocesan inquiry.

Prudence and caution.

Works for me.

Glenn Dallaire has posted details on his site Mystics of the Church.

The commission did not offer any determination on the supernatural origins of Johnston's messages, but simply advised prudence and caution - as well as advised that Johnston would not be approved as a speaker in the Archdiocese.  

Raison d'etre:

After reviewing the commission’s findings and in keeping with his pastoral office, Archbishop Samuel J. Aquila of Denver has decided to strongly advise the faithful to exercise prudence and caution in regards to Mr. Charlie Johnston’s alleged divine visions and messages. As has been demonstrated with other alleged apparitions, the danger exists of people placing greater faith in a prediction than in Christ’s words and promises.
For these reasons, Mr. Johnston will also not be approved as a speaker in the Archdiocese of Denver.
For those who are disappointed by this finding, the archdiocese encourages them to seek their security in Jesus Christ, the sacraments, and the Scriptures. The faithful should also remember Christ’s words: “But about that day and hour no one knows, neither the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Mt. 24:36). - Statement


No doubt Charlie Johnston is a good man, devout Catholic, prayerful and faithful - highly intelligent and practical, filled with common sense as evidenced by his writings.  As far as I can determine, he always submits himself to the discernment of his spiritual directors and above all, to the judgement of the Church.  I think this is why much of his advice is so convincing.  The Archbishop simply recommends prudence and caution.  Nothing wrong with that.

(Read John of the Cross on locutions and you will understand.)

And this is how that works.

h/t P

13 comments:

  1. So stupid question, who is Charlie Johnston and what message does he got? I knew I should have been checking SpiritDaily more often.

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    1. Same as you ... never heard of the guy.

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    2. He is a Catholic prophet, who claims to have seen angels, the Virgin Mary, and even Jesus, over many years, and contends that we have entered into a period that he calls the Storm. The says that it is not the end of the world, but a chastisement by God, and claims that we are called to do 3 things: acknowledge God, take the next right step and be a sign of hope to those right around you.

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  2. He's kind of a weatherman - says a storm'-a-comin' - but not to worry.

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    1. Well, he got Kevin O'Brien to come off his hiatus to comment on him:

      http://thwordinc.blogspot.com/2016/03/charlie-johnstons-followers-take-next.html

      It's pretty harsh. Archbishop Aquila was much more charitable.

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  5. I did not recognize the name until I went to his web site. I then remember stumbling onto him through Spirit Daily. He seems sincere and pretty much follows the general themes of most apparitions and prophecies. His cooperation with the Archdiocese lends to his sincerity. So, we will have to see. So many are focusing in on 2017 as a significant year. It is an important anniversary with Fatima and Garabandal is still hanging out there with one of the major visionaries posed to announce the Miracle 8 days prior. She is now getting on in age and expects, through revelation to her, to be alive for this. Then you have some very weird visionaries out there too. In my Diocese of Rochester NY, we have John Leary. another apparently sincere devout Catholic who reports daily messages from heaven which are very bizarre. Time to get ready for something, time to get our house in order. Maybe our wacky pre-election nonsense is just the beginning and may not be the most important story for very long

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    1. I just went to the website and noted he got a bit defensive with one commentator who questioned him. One or two others called the man doing the questioning arrogant - so I see the defensiveness of the 'followers'. While it's understandable for them to defend themselves it also seems to me a bit over-reaching. If it weren't for that, Charlie seems humble and obedient - so I hope he remains so. The Archbishop's caution should give Charlie great freedom of spirit as regards his 'messages' - a sort of 'not to worry folks' the Church has spoken. If something comes up - he can run it by the local ordinary instead of going through an ensemble set of theologians, spiritual directors, and sympathetic religious for approval.

      I should think he would do everything in his power to avoid media and the spotlight. But that is just me.

      That said, he seems to be a fine Catholic man of integrity. It's always harder for men not to defend themselves since we are wired for that - perhaps he can roll with the punches and not take offence at those who challenge him. Pope Francis seems to like being challenged.

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    2. I just went to the website and noted he got a bit defensive with one commentator who questioned him. One or two others called the man doing the questioning arrogant - so I see the defensiveness of the 'followers'. While it's understandable for them to defend themselves it also seems to me a bit over-reaching. If it weren't for that, Charlie seems humble and obedient - so I hope he remains so. The Archbishop's caution should give Charlie great freedom of spirit as regards his 'messages' - a sort of 'not to worry folks' the Church has spoken. If something comes up - he can run it by the local ordinary instead of going through an ensemble set of theologians, spiritual directors, and sympathetic religious for approval.

      I should think he would do everything in his power to avoid media and the spotlight. But that is just me.

      That said, he seems to be a fine Catholic man of integrity. It's always harder for men not to defend themselves since we are wired for that - perhaps he can roll with the punches and not take offence at those who challenge him. Pope Francis seems to like being challenged.

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  6. One more thought. Whatever happened with the looming Vatican pronouncement on Medjurgorie? Did I miss it? Didn't Pope Francis say in one of his infamous airplane interviews say a ruling would be made soon? Does this mean years in Vatican time? I am always leery of visionaries and prophets who write and sell books DVDs and go on speaking tours.

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    1. If I remember correctly the Holy Father might have jumped the gun on that and no decision was announced. I think it isn't about approval but 'shrine status' and pastoral care for those coming on pilgrimage. I think the approval or recognition wouldn't happen until there is evidence - finishing up the secrets and revealing them or whatever miracle is supposed to happen. If anything I'd accept the same type of thing Charlie got - prudence, caution, and no permission to promulgate messages. I think the medj people were asked to stop giving talks or sending out messages.

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    2. SB: If anything, I'd expect ...

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