Is this "organic development" of the liturgy, as spoken of by our Holy Father and experts such as Alcuin Reid, Fr. Gamber, Michael U. Lang,the documents, "Sancrosanctum concilium," "Liturgicam authenticam", Pope John Paul II's encyclical on the Holy Eucharist? Inquiring minds wants to know:<)! Maybe someone from "Pray Tell" blogspot could give us a commentary.
Did anyone notice he's wearing a talit (Jewish prayer shawl)? I can't for the life of me understand why something is not done about priests/religious like this?
this is what happens when one becomes gthe center rather than Jesus Christ. Some folks just want to be center stage all their lives even in the liturgy. And some egos are purely narcisistic. Christ is risen alleluia.
He certainly is a stellar priest, isn't he? <----big time sarcasm here.
I simply don't want to get into the the many objections I have about this religious jack-of-all trades. I posted some and I'll just frustrate myself rehashing them here.
I will say one final thing. I might be exaggerating a little, but I find it highly ironic how the individual tasked with consecrating the host at that table should also be the one most imbued with Judas' attributes.
Oh and I forgot to mention, he was awarded the "Office for Racial Justice Lifetime Achievement Award in recognition of [his life] of service in pursuit of dismantling racism, injustice and inequalities on behalf of African Americans and all people of color."
He calls Jeremiah Wright "one of the greatest biblical scholars this nation has."
I know about it and I feel it is a good move. But now I worry about West because he may be discouraged and this is his career. So I pray all will go well for him and he will come back solid in the faith.
It's so frustrating for me to leave something like that behind only to find I'm back in that same boat.. I just wanna be a Catholic but I never dreamed it would be so difficult among our own peers.
My biggest suprises about being Catholic, 1)some people hate converts. 2)Religious aren't always as holy as I had assumed. 3) and Catholics hate other Catholics who try to do the right thing.
When I watch a fine performance such as this I think, - if you can't do the right thing when people are watching you then how to you behave in private?
"like all good priests and pastors, he acts out of love.” —Cardinal George
What does "acting out of love" resemble?
"...honored with a lifetime achievement award" LifeSite News
What does lifetime achievement truly mean ... what is model-perimeters-actions-character-basis does one make assessment from, particularly when an individual represents the Church?
What would disqualify someone from earning "lifetime" achievement awards?
Zenit Report ZE10041408 - 2010-04-14:
"The first task of which I wish to speak today is the 'munus docendi,' namely, that of teaching. Today, at the height of the educational emergency, the "munus docendi" of the Church, exercised concretely through the ministry of each priest, is particularly important. We live amid great confusion about the fundamental choices of our life and the questions about what the world is, from where it comes, where we are going, what we must do to carry out the good, how we must live, what are the really pertinent values. In relation to all this there are so many contrasting philosophies, which arise and disappear, creating confusion about the fundamental decisions, how to live, why we do not know more, ordinarily, from what thing and for what thing we were made and where we are going. ...
"Fulfilled in this situation is the word of the Lord, who has compassion on the crowd because they were like sheep without a shepherd (cf. Mark 6:34). The Lord had made this confirmation when he saw the thousands of people who followed him in the desert because, in the diversity of currents of that time, they no longer knew the true meaning of Scripture, what God was saying. The Lord, moved by compassion, interpreted the word of God, he himself is the Word of God, and thus he gave guidance. This is the function in persona Christi of the priest: to render present, in the confusion and disorientation of our times, the light of the Word of God, the light that is Christ himself in this our world.
Hence the priest does not teach his own ideas, a philosophy that he himself has invented, has found and that pleases him; the priest does not speak of himself, does not speak by himself, to create perhaps admirers or his own party; he does not say his own things, his own inventions, but, in the confusion of all the philosophies, the priest teaches in the name of Christ present, he proposes the truth that is Christ himself, his word, his way of living and of going forward. True for the priest is what Christ said of himself: "My teaching is not mine" (John 7:16); that is, Christ does not propose himself, but, as Son, is the voice, the word of the Father.
The priest must also speak and act like this: "My doctrine is not mine, I do not propagate my ideas or what pleases me, but I am the mouth and heart of Christ and make present this unique and common doctrine, which the universal Church has created and which creates eternal life." ...
Thank you, Holy Father, for speaking clearly ... if only we would listen and ask for humility & Wisdom to understand ...
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Is this "organic development" of the liturgy, as spoken of by our Holy Father and experts such as Alcuin Reid, Fr. Gamber, Michael U. Lang,the documents,
ReplyDelete"Sancrosanctum concilium," "Liturgicam authenticam", Pope John Paul II's encyclical on the Holy Eucharist?
Inquiring minds wants to know:<)!
Maybe someone from "Pray Tell" blogspot could give us a commentary.
np - it's organic, if by that you mean using homegrown narcotics. What other explanation is there?
ReplyDeleteDid anyone notice he's wearing a talit (Jewish prayer shawl)? I can't for the life of me understand why something is not done about priests/religious like this?
ReplyDeletethis is what happens when one becomes gthe center rather than Jesus Christ. Some folks just want to be center stage all their lives even in the liturgy. And some egos are purely narcisistic. Christ is risen alleluia.
ReplyDeleteI did notice the talit. Looks as if this was liturgical theater.
ReplyDeleteI wrote about this guy two posts ago.
ReplyDeleteHe certainly is a stellar priest, isn't he? <----big time sarcasm here.
I simply don't want to get into the the many objections I have about this religious jack-of-all trades. I posted some and I'll just frustrate myself rehashing them here.
I will say one final thing. I might be exaggerating a little, but I find it highly ironic how the individual tasked with consecrating the host at that table should also be the one most imbued with Judas' attributes.
Oh and I forgot to mention, he was awarded the "Office for Racial Justice Lifetime Achievement Award in recognition of [his life] of service in pursuit of dismantling racism, injustice and inequalities on behalf of African Americans and all people of color."
ReplyDeleteHe calls Jeremiah Wright "one of the greatest biblical scholars this nation has."
I'm DONE with this guy.
Awful ... a travesty. God forgive him.
ReplyDeleteI have grave doubts that the consecration was valid.
ReplyDeleteSomething has to be done about this.
ReplyDeleteOT - i'm surprised you haven't blogged about Christopher West being on sabbatical...lol
ReplyDeleteI know about it and I feel it is a good move. But now I worry about West because he may be discouraged and this is his career. So I pray all will go well for him and he will come back solid in the faith.
ReplyDeleteThis makes me ill. There is a culty vibe going on.
ReplyDeleteDyphna, It's not culty it's protestant!!
ReplyDeleteIt's so frustrating for me to leave something like that behind only to find I'm back in that same boat.. I just wanna be a Catholic but I never dreamed it would be so difficult among our own peers.
My biggest suprises about being Catholic,
1)some people hate converts.
2)Religious aren't always as holy as I had assumed.
3) and Catholics hate other Catholics who try to do the right thing.
When I watch a fine performance such as this I think, - if you can't do the right thing when people are watching you then how to you behave in private?
Heavy hearted sigh.........
"like all good priests and pastors, he acts out of love.”
ReplyDelete—Cardinal George
What does "acting out of love" resemble?
"...honored with a lifetime achievement award" LifeSite News
What does lifetime achievement truly mean ... what is model-perimeters-actions-character-basis does one make assessment from, particularly when an individual represents the Church?
What would disqualify someone from earning "lifetime" achievement awards?
Zenit Report ZE10041408 - 2010-04-14:
"The first task of which I wish to speak today is the 'munus docendi,' namely, that of teaching. Today, at the height of the educational emergency, the "munus docendi" of the Church, exercised concretely through the ministry of each priest, is particularly important. We live amid great confusion about the fundamental choices of our life and the questions about what the world is, from where it comes, where we are going, what we must do to carry out the good, how we must live, what are the really pertinent values. In relation to all this there are so many contrasting philosophies, which arise and disappear, creating confusion about the fundamental decisions, how to live, why we do not know more, ordinarily, from what thing and for what thing we were made and where we are going. ...
http://www.zenit.org/article-28905?l=english
ReplyDeleteZE10041408 - 2010-04-14
cont'd ...
"Fulfilled in this situation is the word of the Lord, who has compassion on the crowd because they were like sheep without a shepherd (cf. Mark 6:34). The Lord had made this confirmation when he saw the thousands of people who followed him in the desert because, in the diversity of currents of that time, they no longer knew the true meaning of Scripture, what God was saying. The Lord, moved by compassion, interpreted the word of God, he himself is the Word of God, and thus he gave guidance. This is the function in persona Christi of the priest: to render present, in the confusion and disorientation of our times, the light of the Word of God, the light that is Christ himself in this our world.
Hence the priest does not teach his own ideas, a philosophy that he himself has invented, has found and that pleases him; the priest does not speak of himself, does not speak by himself, to create perhaps admirers or his own party; he does not say his own things, his own inventions, but, in the confusion of all the philosophies, the priest teaches in the name of Christ present, he proposes the truth that is Christ himself, his word, his way of living and of going forward. True for the priest is what Christ said of himself: "My teaching is not mine" (John 7:16); that is, Christ does not propose himself, but, as Son, is the voice, the word of the Father.
The priest must also speak and act like this: "My doctrine is not mine, I do not propagate my ideas or what pleases me, but I am the mouth and heart of Christ and make present this unique and common doctrine, which the universal Church has created and which creates eternal life." ...
Thank you, Holy Father, for speaking clearly ... if only we would listen and ask for humility & Wisdom to understand ...