Friday, May 17, 2013

Pat Robertson and St. JoseMaria Escriva as Marriage Counselors seem to have something in common.

Wisdom from the First Lady of Beauty...
"God is love. I have loved. Therefore, I will go to heaven." - to Pope Paul VI, who responded, "Oh, how wonderful, how childlike."
"People say I'm extravagant because I want to be surrounded by beauty. But tell me, who wants to be surrounded by garbage? Beauty is love made real and the spirit of love is God. Only a crazy man wants to be surrounded by garbage, and I'm not crazy just yet."

Pat Robertson (that's not him in the photo BTW) is in trouble again for his marital advice to a woman who just can't get over the fact her husband cheated on her.  The evangelist counseled her saying:
“Stop talking about the cheating.” Instead, the evangelist stated she should focus on the reasons Ivy married her husband and what he does. He added:
“Recognize also, like it or not, males have a tendency to wander a little bit. What you want to do is make a home so wonderful that he doesn’t want to wander.”
It was these words, along with the opener, “well, he’s a man,” which sent the internet into a tussle. - Pat Robertson's cheating advice.
Crazy?  Not so fast... St. Josemaria Escriva might have said the same thing.  Take a look:
What would you advise married women to do to ensure that their marriages continue to be happy with the passing of the years and that they do not give way to boredom? This question may not seem very important, but it is one asked by many people. 
“I think it is in fact an important question and therefore the possible solutions are also important even though they may seem very obvious. If a marriage is to preserve its initial charm and beauty, both husband and wife should try to renew their love day after day, and that is done through sacrifice, with smiles and also with ingenuity. Is it surprising that a husband who arrives home tired from work begins to lose patience when his wife keeps on and on about everything she thinks has gone wrong during the day? Disagreeable things can wait for a better moment when the husband is less tired and more disposed to listen to them.

Another important thing is personal appearance. And I would say that any priest who says the contrary is a bad adviser. As years go by a woman who lives in the world has to take more care not only of her interior life, but also of her looks. Her interior life itself requires her to be careful about her personal appearance; naturally this should always be in keeping with her age and circumstances. I often say jokingly that older facades need more restoration. It is the advice of a priest. An old Spanish saying goes: ‘A well-groomed woman keeps her husband away from other doors.’

That is why I am not afraid to say that women are responsible for eighty per cent of the infidelities of their husbands because they do not know how to win them each day and take loving and considerate care of them. A married woman’s attention should be centered on her husband and children, as a married man’s attention should be centered on his wife and children. Much time and effort is required to succeed in this, and anything which militates against it is bad and should not be tolerated.

There is no excuse for not fulfilling this lovable duty. Work outside the home is not an excuse. Not even one’s life of piety can be an excuse, because if it is incompatible with one’s daily obligations, it is not good, nor pleasing to God. A married woman’s first concern has to be her home. There is a Spanish saying which goes: ‘If through going to church to pray a woman burns the stew, she may be half an angel, but she’s half a devil too.’ I’d say she was a fully-fledged devil.”
(Conversations with Saint Josemaria Escriva, 107) - Source 


You see, this is the havoc feminism has wrought upon the world - modern women are corrupted by liberalism and reject common sense Christian teaching.  Men - be men!   We can still blame the women for all that is wrong.  If they'd just shut up, look pretty, stay at home and no aska the questions, their husbands wouldn't have to lie.

BTW.  Lying.  Women do it all the time.  Isn't make-up a lie?  High-heels - she really isn't that tall.  So JoseMaria was recommending lying?  Which begs the question, would he approve of Lila Rose and Live Action tactics then?  There is a great debate going on at Jimmy Akin's about lying... everybody is engaged!  Check it out... here.

Song for this post here.


  1. +JMJ+

    Okay, I'll take your Imeldific bait. =P But this post actually touches on something I've been seriously considering for some time. It's related to the bigger issue is how responsible we are for the souls of those we are close to.

    A few months ago, I made the decision to end a friendship with someone I've known for half my life. It was something I first thought about doing six years earlier, when the nature of her relationship with the Church first started causing me pain. The main reason I hung in there was that I loved her . . . but a close second was that I was worried about making her hate the Church more than she already did. But a few months ago, she did something I just couldn't handle, and that was that for me. I know I pretty much broke her heart. If she never returns to full communion with the Church, will it be my fault?

  2. Enbrethiliel - I was hoping you'd take the bait - Haha! Now I'm waiting for Fr. Gary.

    Anyway - I don't know how to answer your question. I've ended friendships like you have - all I can do is continue to pray for them and hope they will not hate the Church because of me. I somehow think this is where the necessity for prayer and penance - reparation - enters in to our lives. In a sense we are powerless over such situations, since we can't 'make' the other person love the Church.

    Back to Mrs. Marcos - what if she becomes a saint? The love she had for the 'little ones' - she made herself beautiful for the people.


    1. +JMJ+

      If Imelda (Yes, she and I are on a first name basis) becomes a saint, then we will know that God's mercy can do anything! I almost want it to happen, too, because the scandalised pharisees would be a spectacle. =P

  3. Oh, Lord, I don't even want to know what St. Josemaria Escriva had to say about the marriage debt. I can just imagine. I can choose to be insulted by his remarks or I can choose to be amused. I've opted for the latter. As for his observations about piety and possible interference with domestic responsibilities, I will take my cue from Christ, who admonished Martha for complaining about Mary. Just because someone's a saint doesn't make them infallible. I also remember St. Therese's observation that women share the same lot as Christ, Who was also badly misunderstood, and that one day, the truth will be known. Thanks for a good laugh

  4. I'm glad you are laughing.

  5. Terry, I know it, you're a big fan of Mrs. Marcos. She won again as a congresswoman in Ilocos Norte (hometown of her late husband) during last week's election. BTW, I went to her residence in Batac last January and wanted to see her but her aides told me that she's not available. Maybe if you come with me next time Terry, she would love to see you and share your reflections on "LOVE". LOL!

  6. My grandma was really mad at Mrs. Marcos' husband. She said he stole her gold mine in the mountains and he was going to be hearing from her. This is a true story.

  7. Fr. Gary, I actually do enjoy her. I'm surprised she wouldn't see a priest. I'm surprised she is still in politics.

    Elena - I read a quote from her today wherein she explains her wealth comes from her husband investing in metals long before entering politics. Perhaps that's when the gold mine was stolen.

  8. I guess that just means Pat Robertson had the same stupid macho ideas as a St did. Not very surprising. Women are responsible for eighty percent of men's cheating? That's really disgusting.

  9. The men cheat with someone, and that is usually a woman...

    I've struggled with proper attention to my state in life, wardrobe and grooming. The money women in my area spend to look good is amazing. It's not unheard of to spend $100 for Hair color.$250 for 'jeans' ... Sheesh. I can't imagine. What's a girl to do?

  10. In my view there are few points for a successful Marriage counseling
    1. Never both be angry at the same time.
    2. Never yell at each other unless the house is on fire.
    3. If one of you has to win an argument, let it be your mate.


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