That was quick.
In a new interview with The Advocate, actress Cynthia Nixon felt the need to clarify what she meant in an earlier statement reported by the NYT:
For 15 years, until 2003, she was in a relationship with a man. They had two children together. She then formed a new family with a woman, to whom she’s engaged. And she told The Times’s Alex Witchel that homosexuality for her “is a choice.”
They may not get to 'define her gayness' for her, but obviously their negative reaction more or less persuaded Nixon to clarify what she really meant to say.“For many people it’s not,” she conceded, but added that they “don’t get to define my gayness for me.” NYT
Disordered and unstable.Cynthia Nixon... giving a statement to The Advocate to explain what she meant in the interview -- saying bisexuality is not a choice, but her decision to be in a homosexual relationship is."My recent comments in The New York Times were about me and my personal story of being gay. I believe we all have different ways we came to the gay community and we can't and shouldn't be pigeon-holed into one cultural narrative which can be uninclusive and disempowering," Cynthia said.
"However, to the extent that anyone wishes to interpret my words in a strictly legal context I would like to clarify: While I don't often use the word, the technically precise term for my orientation is bisexual. I believe bisexuality is not a choice, it is a fact. What I have 'chosen' is to be in a gay relationship." - Source
I expect the gay community will be satisfied with that clarification, but I personally think it doesn't change anything - her first statement may have been closer to the truth. In my opinion, bisexuality by its nature implies choice. Sexual fluidity results in choice - one chooses to follow his or her attraction. Concupiscence... lust... perhaps the falling in love with love... aroused by our passions... the feelings and emotions, work together to convince us that we have no choice. Even when we don't permit ourselves to realize we do.
A friend* sent me a link to a great article on the subject of bisexuality and sexual fluidity which may be helpful in understanding what all of this means in today's political battle for equal rights.
Unstable behaviour.
Sexual orientation is much more accurately thought of in the category of a conditioned (and often variable) preference than a determined biological condition.
Most researchers now accept that sexual orientation (the predominant direction of sexual attraction one feels) is the result of a complex interaction in which nature, nurture and choice all play a part. But whether one acts on those feelings by having same sex relations is actually a matter of personal choice.
The American Psychiatric Association (APA) has stated, ‘some people believe that sexual orientation is innate and fixed; however, sexual orientation develops across a person's lifetime’. The APA also says that ‘for some the focus of sexual interest will shift at various points through the life span...’
A report from the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health similarly states, ‘For some people, sexual orientation is continuous and fixed throughout their lives. For others, sexual orientation may be fluid and change over time’
And in a recent Huffington Post article, ‘Future Sex: Beyond Gay and Straight’, a leading British gay rights activist, Peter Tatchell, affirms the fluidity of sexual attraction.
So what?
Well, like many, I am getting rather tired of the term ‘homophobic’ being used as an accusatory label to tar anyone who does not accept, approve and celebrate same-sex sexual relationships and believe that homosexual orientation is a biological characteristic like race or sex.
There are a large and growing number of people (I call them ‘homosceptics’) who neither hate nor fear ‘gay’ people but simply believe that sex outside a lifelong exclusive heterosexual marriage is morally wrong and the fact that we have certain feelings of sexual attraction does not mean that we should therefore act on them. - Read the rest here.Works for me.
[Editors note: Sexual fluidity theory is one reason why we are witnessing the rise of gender neutral discussions/policies/influences around the globe in marketing, politics, media and education... even biblical translations.]
*h/t to Raydar.
Ha ... she obviously got in trouble with the Inquisition.
ReplyDeleteJust like Queen Sophia of Spain got bounced in 2005 . . . would that be the Spanish Inquisition?
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ReplyDeletePablo, I was referring to the "Inquisition of Liberalism", i.e. she dared deviate from liberal "orthodoxy" and was forced to "repent". It was a joke.
ReplyDeleteWhat Pope John Paul II had to say about the Jews is more relevant than anything Queen Isabella said.
Queen Isabella got it right.
ReplyDeleteBeing Pope does not make you right.
It just means you are the Pope.
Pray for the Holy Father.
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Being Queen of Spain doesn't make you Pope either, any more than it makes you right.
ReplyDelete"Concupiscence... lust... perhaps the falling in love with love... aroused by our passions... the feelings and emotions, work together to convince us that we have no choice."
ReplyDeleteI have known more people that have gotten married because they were SOOOOO enamoured of "the wedding" and not "the person" or, you should have seen some of the stuff that I saw in a bar last Friday evening at a co-worker's farewell happy hour. And it was all done by straights! What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander?
Why do you find it so hard to believe (or admit) that 2 men or 2 women can actually L-O-V-E each other, without renaming/psycho-analyzing it as "distorted friendship" or lust or a unfulfilled longing because one had a distant father or over-baring mother? I don't mean to pick at you (especially on your own blog), but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And sometimes love is just love. Really.
Fraternally, Ace
Terry, I think it's brilliant how you've solved in one post what science and theology combined cannot.
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I'm glad you got a new PC. I was missing you.
Thom - I know - sometimes I shock myself.
ReplyDeleteAce - my mistake. I didn't express that very well... Obviously they can and do fall in love.
Ace - BTW - what I was discussing in the post was the choice Nixon speaks about, as well as the choices a bisexual person makes when they switch partners.
ReplyDeleteNixon chose to leave a heterosexual relationship and later, she chose to begin a gay relationship. Anne Heche chose to get together with Ellen, then she chose to leave her, and after that, I think she chose to be with a man again. I don't know why I speculate on the fickle behavior and cupidity of public figures who seek to influence politics and legislation with their personal flavor of the month past-times.
I believe people of the same sex can fall in love with one another - but that does not change Church teaching that homosexual acts are sinful and to be avoided.
Big smile and hug!
Your friend,
Terry
"...I believe people of the same sex can fall in love with one another -..."
ReplyDelete"I will give them up to reprobate minds... they will burn for each other...'
God does not allow love to perverts.
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Wrong, Pablo. Wrong.
ReplyDelete"...Wrong, Pablo. Wrong..."
ReplyDeleteDon't you mean "Wrong Holy Scriptures Wrong"
I was quoting from Holy Scripture, not the Book of Pablo.
[24] Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves. [25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie; and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
[26] For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. [27] And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error. [28] And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient; [Romans 1:28] [Latin] [29] Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers, [30] Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
[26] God delivered them up: Not by being author of their sins, but by withdrawing His grace, and so permitting them, in punishment of their pride, to fall into those shameful sins.
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Is 'Love' ever mentioned in this condemnation?
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You really don't want to start playing "proof-texting" like the Protestants do, do you? Scripture is read in context, with exegesis.
ReplyDeleteThat passage does not address the idea of love between two men or two women.
"...[27] And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy,..."
ReplyDeleteThat includes homosexuals that sexually abuse innocent children... with their 'filth', as Scripture calls it.
Perverts and their accomplices call it 'Love'.
Scripture is the property of Holy Mother Church and her children; we may use it as She allows.
That Truth Protestants proclaim is stolen from Her in their rape of Christ's Bride.
Protestants that form their own Church and collect souls and funds that are the treasury of Holy Mother Church are guilty of raping Her.
Ask a Padre.
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Take time in your day today to say the Three Hail Marys for those children that are and have been sexually molested by an adult.
ReplyDeletePray that God in His mercy grant them those graces necessary to overcome their hurt.
Pray God convert those reprobates.
Take yourself away from all in your world to speak with God on their behalf.
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Terry said: "Ace - BTW - what I was discussing in the post was the choice Nixon speaks about, as well as the choices a bisexual person makes when they switch partners."
ReplyDeleteYes, that is the context (bisexuals) that you used it in, but the same thing has been said so many times about gay people, arguing how they're "not really gay," that lust, love of love, feelings, emotions, seem to convince or trick them if you will, that they're gay and have no choice.
It appears to me that those opposed to gay marriage reduce it to a matter of plumbing, while seemingly never stopping to think that it could be a matter of love. That's where I was going, and it works on the topic of bisexuality too. Sorry to go off course.
As Liesl said to Rolf...
"Cordially," Ace