"Are we prepared to promote conditions in which the living contact with God can be reestablished? For our lives today have become godless to the point of complete vacuity. God is no longer with us in the conscious sense of the word. He is denied, ignored, excluded from every claim to have a part in our daily life." - Alfred Delp, S.J.

Monday, October 28, 2013

Pedophilia now classified a sexual orientation?

"The inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder."
Did someone say disorder?

Redefining pedophilia.
In the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM V), the American Psychological Association (APA) drew a very distinct line between pedophilia and pedophilic disorder. Pedophilia refers to a sexual orientation or profession of sexual preference devoid of consummation, whereas pedophilic disorder is defined as a compulsion and is used in reference to individuals who act on their sexuality. - Source

That is close to what happened to homosexuality in the 1970's.
In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder. The American Psychological Association Council of Representatives followed in 1975. Thereafter other major mental health organizations followed and it was finally declassified by the World Health Organization in 1990.
 It's a step, as Fr. Z  noted, a 'first step, change the language, change the definition.'  Father's statement isn't exactly prophecy.  Efforts to change the age of consent has been proceeding in Europe, especially the Netherlands, for years.  Underground efforts have been working towards the same goals in the United States for decades.  Probably the best known advocacy group being NAMBLA.

Changing age of consent laws and normalizing pedophilia may also be connected to the sexualization of children through media and early, graphic sex education - especially exposing very young children to homosexuality and masturbation.  (I also wonder about the influence of Islamic law and culture here?  Islamic men sometimes marry very young girls.  Then there are those stories about Islamic men and the rape of young boys.  It strikes me that some in Islam would be comfortable with lowering the age of consent as well.)

The Vatican might need to update the Catechism.

If pedophilia gains acceptance as a natural variant of human sexuality/orientation, I wondered how the Catechism and the CDF might deal with it, if pressured to do so by 'Catholic' pedophile advocacy groups.  Thus, I simply substituted a few terms in the text from the CCC teaching on homosexuality. 

What if there was a section added to the Catechism covering pedophilia?  It could be worded like this:

Pedophilia refers to a sexual orientation or profession of sexual preference devoid of consummation towards minor-attracted persons.  Pedophilic disorder is defined as a compulsion and is used in reference to individuals who act on their sexuality.  It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents pedophilic acts as acts of grave scandal, tradition has always declared that "pedophilic acts are intrinsically disordered."  They are contrary to the natural law. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
The number of men and women who have deep-seated pedophilic tendencies hopefully is rare. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, should constitute for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
Pedophiles are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested incarceration, by prayer and sacramental grace, they should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection. 
Just in case the vice becomes socially acceptable, and protected by law...  The CDF may have to step in, declaring something to the effect:

[Though] an overly benign interpretation was given to pedophilia itself, some going so far as to call it neutral, or even good, or a natural variant of sexual orientation. Although the particular inclination of the pedophile person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder. 

Of course that will never happen... or will it?

Very seriously, differentiating between pedophilia as an orientation and pedophilic disorder  'as a compulsion - used in reference to individuals who act on their sexuality', such a fine distinction, though perhaps well intended in order to counsel persons with the tendency, is destined to be considered unjust discrimination at some point.  (Likewise, sexual crimes against children are frequently crimes of opportunity.)  At the very least, as was said regarding homosexuality, "the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder" -  that way of speaking regarding any type of sexual orientation will most likely be rejected as hurtful, offensive, hateful, and discriminatory.

Or something like that.



  1. Do you think homosexuality is more of a mental disorder, or emotional disorder? I think it's the latter (although the psyche plays a part as well). Something else I've wondered about: I've heard it said that pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated. If that's true, doesn't that disregard the work of God's grace in the soul?

    Something else came to mind. When I was an undergrad about 20+ years ago, my confessor and I had a conversation about the genesis of homosexuality. He told me in the Middle East, it is common practice for adult men to use boys for sex, yet they consider themselves totally heterosexual. He was told once by an Arab, "girls are for marrying, but boys are for fun." Isn't that interesting? If that's true, I just don't get it. Homosexuality carries a death sentence in Islamic countries, yet their adult men mess around w/boys and it's ok?!

    1. "I think it's the latter (although the psyche plays a part as well)."

      Wow DB..I am going to send a time machine to bring you back from the 1950's : )

      "Homosexuality carries a death sentence in Islamic countries, yet their adult men mess around w/boys and it's ok?!"

      Internalized homophobia there...the adult is taking the "masculine," role so its not as bad. In misogynistic places like that its not about the "gay," as much as about being a man and not being dominated or feminine. Also, you can see that in our society where most of the gay world worships guys if they consider them straight, and closet case married guys who consider themselves "str8," (whoever came up with that stupid ass saying) as they just have sex, no emotional involvement.

      We do agree on this, its a weird, weird world and people will fool themselves into believing anything!

  2. How would I know?

    So anyway - here's my unprofessional, unqualified opinion: Homosexual attraction is a result of the fall - everything got screwed up back then.

    I see homosexual attraction as a temptation. Now there may be pathologies involving same sex attraction, but I'm not sure it is a mental disorder per se. Emotional-affective disorder - yes. Something narcissistic or a different interpretation of penis envy - yes. Something is not normal though. Nuts? I dunno - it's made me pretty nuts at times. And I've met seriously demented homos-

    So, does that help? I didn't think so.

    As for lesbians - I can't even begin to imagine women being attracted to women.


    1. "Nuts? I dunno - it's made me pretty nuts at times. And I've met seriously demented homos-"

      LOL..Terry, everyone's sexuality drives them
      "nuts," at one time or another, its how we learn to control it (hopefully.) And come on, you never met any seriously demented straighties?

      "As for lesbians - I can't even begin to imagine women being attracted to women."

      Come on, there are a lot of sexy women out there...plus, you have someone to talk about emotions, feelings and golf and tennis!

  3. What the APA did in the DSM V is in no way similar to the 1970's declassification of homosexuality.

  4. Thom - "What the APA did in the DSM V is in no way similar to the 1970's declassification of homosexuality."

    Probably. However, the effect has the potential to be the same.

    Years ago when I worked in Presentation at a department store - a famous one - there were pedophiles amongst us. Well, the president of the company was a pederast - he liked the high school boys. But another player was also gay - unlike the president, he loved little boys, toddlers. He had a position within the company. People - straight people - laughed off the predilection as just another odd ball predilection. No one, no one ever called these people out.

    There is an amazing capability amongst people to accept the most bizarre behavior as normal, or at least, live and let live, and not judge.

  5. And no - I'm not saying homosexuals are more inclined to sexual abuse of children any more than my dad was inclined to have sex with my sister.

  6. Seriously...the end times aren't far off.

    1. The best argument I've ever heard for that conclusion relates to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Someone once said that they were destroyed not simply for sexual deviance but because it was impossible to raise children there any more. Now fast forward to our time and consider our culture...

      Terry--Sorry you had to endure the Patheos blow-up. That's no fun. Mark Shea offered good advice, anyway.

    2. I hate any speculation about the end times being near or far off. Was there ever a time when people didn't think they were upon us?

      Also, the world is not the USA and the decadent West.

  7. Scott - if I would have gone over to Patheos when invited I would have been fired by now.

    1. Yes, you would have been fired, but with cause. The Anchoress would have written: "Dude, we hired you to write blog posts--not be our ombudsman." Ouch.

      I did like how Deacon Greg stood, saying, "Thank you God that when I surf the web I only get holy card and chapel veil ads, while Terry's readers get cougar dating sites and Jim Beam ads. You people really need to repent."


    2. That's why Terry sends all his blog readers directions to the earlybird confessions.

  8. Merc - the end is near.

  9. Wow...if the end was near what a relief. Smirk...anyway, this whole pederast thing...dates back to ancient Greece and Rome, yes? I cannot wrap my mind around it but I remember reading it was an acceptable practice among the elite of these two ancient cultures moreso in Greece than in Rome.

    I am wondering about the beauty and innocence of a child. No one considers that I suppose when all you wanna do is rape them, possess them, and dominate them, make them your play thing. Or is it possible that they could enjoy it all? Just asking because I do not understand it.

    The wonder and beauty of growing up, of taking your time to do so, of purity and of dignity...to be denied such gifts because you are the object of someone else's sexual pleasures is a crime that has no name.

    Yeah, there are many times when I pray for the fire to fall from heaven...many times.

  10. Excerpt from an October 31, 2013 Huffington Post article:

    "A mainstream Christian news site and a number of smaller, right-wing blogs published stories this week alleging that the American Psychiatric Association, or APA, had classified pedophilia as a sexual orientation.

    ". . . The article quickly went viral, garnering over 100,000 Facebook shares within 24 hours of being published and lighting up the right-wing blogosphere. Among many bloggers and commenters, the shared sentiment was that this was a logical progression from the normalization of homosexuality that began in the 1960's.

    "The only problem is, the report wasn't true . . ."

    To read more, click here.

  11. Thanks Michael. When will I ever learn not to jump on these stories?


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