Saturday, February 18, 2017

This is so interesting ... Trump's unofficial diagnosis.


John D. Gartner, a practicing psychotherapist who taught psychiatric residents at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, minces as few words as the president in his professional assessment of Trump.
"Donald Trump is dangerously mentally ill and temperamentally incapable of being president," says Gartner, author of "In Search of Bill Clinton: A Psychological Biography." Trump, Gartner says, has "malignant narcissism," which is different from narcissistic personality disorder and which is incurable.
Gartner acknowledges that he has not personally examined Trump, but says it's obvious from Trump's behavior that he meets the diagnostic criteria for the disorder, which include anti-social behavior, sadism, aggressiveness, paranoia and grandiosity. Trump's personality disorder (which includes hypomania) is also displayed through a lack of impulse control and empathy, and "a feeling that people ... don't recognize their greatness. - USNews

This may explain his behavior at his last presser.

But 'they' said the same things about Obama.  I guess it takes a narcissist to lead a nation of narcissists, huh?

So anyway.  There are those who will disagree on this of course, but something is off with Trump.  So far I'm not convinced the administration is running like a fine tuned machine.  There remain many job openings he needs to fill, as David Brooks cited last evening on PBS News Hour:
The press conference was its own thing. It’s like some exploding nebula of madness. I thought it was just mildly deranged, just the epitome of nonlinear thinking. Let’s put it that way. 
But what strikes me is, we have got to remember, what is the guy actually doing? And here we have an administration where he’s making a lot of press conferences, but, on the substantive picks, he doesn’t have a national security adviser. There are 691 confirmable positions in the White House.
The Trump administration has not even come up with names and nominees for 631 out of those 691. So there is nobody there, nobody in the shop, no policy-making being made. - PBS
I watched the presser, and shortly after Trump said media would say he was ranting and raving - and he denied he was - he began to rant and rave.  I found it pretty unsettling and was reminded of Howard Beale in Network.

Today a NYT Opinion piece warns it's too early to diagnose the President - which I agree with, but it seems to me he's falling right in with the 'dictator' profile - therefore a wait and see what happens is our only alternative - but I really think he's at least potentially dangerous.  My apologies to those who disagree.

I concur with the NYT summation:

There is one last reason we should avoid psychiatrically labeling our leaders: It lets them off the moral hook. Not all misbehavior reflects psychopathology; the fact is that ordinary human meanness and incompetence are far more common than mental illness. We should not be in the business of medicalizing bad actors.
So the nation doesn’t need a shrink to help it to decide whether President Trump is fit to serve, mentally or otherwise. Presidents should be judged on the merits of their actions, statements and, I suppose, their tweets. No experts are needed for that — just common sense. - Richard A. Friedman

I'll try to let the Trump stuff go - but I can't help find it fascinating.  Again, it's because of where I come from, an abusive, crazy family and I once worked for a VP who had many of the same symptoms, or characteristics of malignant narcissism.  Most fellow employees in his division would agree with me, I'm sure.

Have a nice day.

Song for this post here.


  1. I thought the presser was great. I'm sure many found it jarring after decades of boring, no information press conferences. I did not find Trumps' behavior strange or hysterical.

    And anyone who considers himself a professional, like this psychotherapist, who publicly offers a diagnosis of a person he's never even met, should have his license yanked and never returned. There were many who did that with Obama and I found that equally distasteful and unprofessional. It would be like a priest giving personalized spiritual advice to a person they've never met.

    1. I watched it too - I had wished the media in the room would have just sat there with their jaws dropped in amazement. I think he provided the script for SNL tonight, we'll see.

      I've tried so hard to get behind him - but all I can do is pray for him right now.

      Thanks for putting up with me.

    2. I thought the presser was great, too. The president was calm and measured and he stood up to the left-wing media.

  2. I once read that executives are narcissistic and that you have to be a narcissist to rise to the top.

    I agree about loss of licensure for public diagnoses. We don't require candidates to pass a mental health exam. Too Soviet and makes it easier to eliminate enemies by sending them to the gulag. Or Omaha.

  3. Unfortunately, we end up with narcissistic presidents because narcissists are more motivated than saner people to run for office--and the higher the office the greater the payoff in adulation for the narcissist.

    Many of us have worked for malignant narcissists. They're such avid self-promoters that they rise to the top.

    1. My guy was incredible - but also incredibly talented and intellectual for an art director in retail - he was VP of Visual Merchandising and is honored with an award named after him. He could be vicious.

  4. How about for Christians at least, we should be more concerned with the fact that the man is a mendacious bully lacking in any virtue who is the living antithesis of all the Beatitudes, whose promise to make Christianity powerful again if we just bow down and worship him is highly reminiscent of a promise made in the desert 2000 or so years ago.

    Just because the media are deplorable doesn't mean we should cheer this guy. It's not like he's upset with the fact that they don't telll the truth - they just tell the wrong lies.

    But I'm sure we're doing much good for the salvation of souls and drawing people outside the church in by proving to the world that we actually don't care about things like truth, goodness, beauty, or character - we just like power, and if we can't have that, we just want to see our enemies suffer.

    It's amazing to be that the same quarters of the Catholic culture where Trump is most praised also happen to be hostile as all hell to the Pope.

    1. "It's amazing to me that the same quarters of the Catholic culture where Trump is most praised also happen to be hostile as all hell to the Pope."

      Amazing to me too.

    2. What's even more amazing is the fact that a Girl Scout is reported to have been robbed at gunpoint of her monies after selling her famed Girl Scout cookies.

      Truly shocking! ­čść

  5. Tonight's rally is some kind of turning point. It is only 115 miles between Palm Beach and Melbourne Florida. To use Air Force One for that short a trip is ludicrous and a huge waste of money. It could easily been a short helicopter ride. It was for show. Something is a foot in the intel world. Our own and the worlds. He is riling up his base in preparation for something. Preparing them to come to his defense. Do not believe the media they lie he says. Only he will tell us the truth. In 1935 Sinclair Lewis wrote a novel entitled " It Can't Happen Here." A fictionalized President takes us into a world Trump could admire. Charlie Johnson predicted Obama would impose martial law in the last year of his Presidency. Maybe he was just a little off!

    1. I recently dug up some old plates that I was led to by an angel. I found I was miraculously able to read the ancient Greek text, and realized that I had in my hands an oracle by the ancient Sibylline... Oracle. On it, it warned of a clash between Planet Niburu and Planet X just outside the borders of the U.S. The only safe place will be a county in South Dakota, which I can tell you. Shoot me an e-mail. And $25,000. That last part is the most important. I can only seem to remember the details when I am given $25,000.

    2. There have been rumors for years about the sitting president, whoever it is at the time, imposing martial law. They usually spell it as Marshall law. The other thing was Bush's plan to turn off the electricity. A few months ago someone told of going to a builder's conference and learning that all the wealthy people have built enclaves of self sufficient houses with generators, wells, etc, partially underground. The most interesting part is that he claimed to have gone to a building site, after the builder had gotten government clearance to allow it.

      For me, the BG gap in his story, assuming that it was true, is that he'd have needed a security clearance, which isn't done in a few days. He's an immigrant who had been here for years.

    3. I'm still wondering where the reported "black op troops" are. They were reported to be quite active during the Clinton years. Some swear they were being spied on by way of black helicopters churning about in the skies above their neighborhoods.


    4. It is fun to laugh at these silly sceneries. Everytime I see the high flying jets that leave the trails I think of the secret Black Op Troops and the secret camps. I was half joking in my post here but I do believe this time is different.

  6. Apparently the Holy Father has a Borderline Personality Disorder, so who knows.

    As you've said a couple of times Terry: "We're all nuts!"


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