"Are we prepared to promote conditions in which the living contact with God can be reestablished? For our lives today have become godless to the point of complete vacuity. God is no longer with us in the conscious sense of the word. He is denied, ignored, excluded from every claim to have a part in our daily life." - Alfred Delp, S.J.

Wednesday, September 02, 2015

The September Martyrs of Paris - Carmes ...

... killed for not taking oaths of loyalty to the State.


Martyrs story here.


Just imagine - put to death for not taking oaths of loyalty to the State.

I wonder if that could happen here?

Did you see the story about the County Clerk who refuses to issue a marriage license to same-sex couples?  

MOREHEAD — A federal judge has ordered Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis and her deputies to appear in his courtroom Thursday and explain why Davis should not be held in contempt of court for refusing to issue marriage licenses.
Shortly after opening her doors Tuesday, Davis told two same-sex couples who asked for marriage licenses that she would not issue them, despite a federal court injunction ordering her to do so.
"Under whose authority are you not issuing marriage licenses?" someone in the crowd asked Davis.
"Under God's authority," she responded. - Read more here.



Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2015/09/01/4014743_rowan-county-clerk-continues-to.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2015/09/01/4014743_rowan-county-clerk-continues-to.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

9 comments:

  1. "Under God's authority"

    How many of us will have the guts to stand firm and say the same thing if we should ever come to face with a crowd that is trying to intimidate you and shout you down? This is just the beginning in my opinion. .

    I know that perhaps in the near future if California passes that so-called "right to die act" I cannot in good conscience have anything to do with it.

    THe world is just getting crazier it seems.

    Come Lord Jesus, come!

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    1. I thought of that before I read your comment - being a hospice nurse you are really in a position where you could come face to face with the culture of death laws as they are enacted. This hits close to home doesn't it.

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    2. In the near future, yes, it will hit close to home but I have decided to just quit my job as a hospice nurse if that happens since like I said, I want nothing to do with euthanasia. Some co-workers are saying that hospice care will be affected while others claim we may be asked to sit with those who have chosen to end their lives while undergoing euthanasia.

      I cannot do it.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gR8BAycnjU

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  2. Wouldn't Ms. Davis's way to show integrity in this be to resign? As it is, she is not issuing licenses to anyone, which takes it beyond a protest against the inclusion of same-sex couples. Her actions nullify all state-sanctioned marriage, not just same-sex marriages.

    Would a Catholic judge be within his or her rights to refuse to grant no-fault divorces to couples without a substantial reason for divorce? I'm not sure the two situations are the same, but that's what comes to mind. Also, "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" comes to mind too. As much as I support just marriage laws that limit state recognition to one man and one woman, I have a hard time seeing a state license, especially in this day and age, as being God's and not Caesar's.

    That being said, I admire her courage and am nauseated by her crucifixion. Especially the crap she's getting over her pre-conversion mistakes in the realm of marriage. So many people blindly doing the Accuser's work in the name of "consistency" and calling out "hypocrisy." This is the sort of thing that makes me fear CJ's Storm not happening! Seriously, as hesitant as I am to say "I fully believe in CJ's visitations," I'm beginning to feel real anxiety over it not being true. (This is your fault, Terry! Your mention of CJ a month or so ago is what turned me on to it. Now I don't know what to do because he's the first contemporary "visionary" I've encountered that 1) doesn't seem nuts and 2) doesn't use archaic or flowery language that makes me dismiss it as hot-house piety.)

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    1. Those are excellent points - I don't know the answer but it is something to consider - where is St. Thomas Moore on this one? ;) Wrong or right - this strikes me as a good sign of what's coming.

      I'll have to go back and read C.J. - I heard some pretty good priests support him and find him credible ...

      I'm battening down the hatches.

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  3. Issuing licenses is only part of her job. Issuing licenses to same sx couples wasn't part of her job until recently.

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    1. As a lawyer - what do you think? Quit? Fire her? Fine her? Jail time? Guillotine? (Forget the last one.)

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  4. None of the above she will be impeached for insubordination. Barring that a truer test of her faith and willing to sacrifice would be to resign. There are a host of legal issues that we can take a stand on personally, but would be unable to hold a job if we refused to enforce even though the job requires it. Remember "blue laws.?" Once upon a time retail stores did not open on Sunday's. Certain religions forbade work on Sunday's. Prohibition and the sale of alcohol is another issue once illegal and now not. If your religions forbids alcohol can you work in a convenient store and refuse to sell, or refuse to sell on Sunday? One can admire her belief and defend her right to hold and express. One cannot however uphold her continuance in a position of authority while refusing to exercise all of her mandated responsibilities. She cannot have it both ways.

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