"Are we prepared to promote conditions in which the living contact with God can be reestablished? For our lives today have become godless to the point of complete vacuity. God is no longer with us in the conscious sense of the word. He is denied, ignored, excluded from every claim to have a part in our daily life." - Alfred Delp, S.J.

Thursday, July 30, 2015

Boy Scouts of America will now allow gay troop leaders.

Just say no.


Apparently there is some concern about that.
Churches and other religious organizations will determine whether or not to accept homosexual adults as leaders in chartered troops, packs and other Boy Scout units, now that the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) has removed its ban on homosexual adults from serving in leadership and volunteer positions throughout the organization. 
Bishop Robert Guglielmone of Charleston, S.C., the episcopal liaison for the National Catholic Committee on Scouting (NCCS), told the Register the NCCS was “cautiously optimistic” that Catholic organizations could still be involved with the BSA, so long as the policy on paper became the policy in practice. 
“We have to look at how all this plays out,” the bishop said. “The NCCS has indicated we can use this program and keep it within the parameters of Catholic teaching based on what is said and what is promised.” - NCRegister
At face value, there's a sense of irony in all of this.

Considering the recent discussions which have taken place about admitting gay/ssa men to seminary and ordination - within the parameters of Vatican guidelines of course.  Yet as Bishop Guglielmone pointed out in his statement, so ought it to be for seminaries: "So long as the policy on paper became the policy in practice."  Yet we know that hasn't always been the case when it came to admitting homosexuals to seminaries and holy orders.

Things are different now of course.

However, if it turns out that Catholic troops end up making exceptions, local chapters might consider adapting the Vatican guidelines for seminaries.  For instance, when a gay Boy Scout grows up and returns to accept a troop leadership position: 
Different, however, would be the case in which one were dealing with homosexual tendencies that were only the expression of a transitory problem - for example, that of an adolescence not yet superseded. Nevertheless, such tendencies must be clearly overcome at least three years before advancing to Troop Leader.



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12 comments:

  1. Boycott the scouts. Do FNE or Troops of St George.

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    1. Militia of Mary Immaculate should consider expanding their programs to include Boy Scout style activities while promoting St. Kolbe's vision.

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  2. I've been my oldest son's den leader for the last two years. Like most things, the idea of scouting is better than the reality. There are so much paperwork, checklisting, and random acts of bureaucracy it really kills it for me. Like everything was designed by committee--a committee of insurance agents and over-bearing mothers. My son says he still likes it, so I'll continue.

    As to the gay leaders, two years it ago it was "we won't kick out gay scouts, but the teaching and leadership remains unchanged." (As though gay scouts were ever kicked out in the first place! (Not that the should be, of course)) These people are liars. Well-meaning, hopeful liars, maybe. But the chances of the "religious exemption" holding are slim. The boy scouts are going the way of the girl scouts.

    The scouts, and most of America, are trying to hold on to virtue detached from its source. This never, ever, ever works.

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    1. I think in a short time the 'religious exemption' will be history.

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  3. Great gif at the end, btw. You have such a way with using pop culture references to make subtle points. It's funny because it's true! Harharhar.

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    1. Leslie Nielson films have so many lines to use, it is hysterical.

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  4. Militia of Mary Immaculate Terry? That sounds like something that would make any boy run for the hills! I was in scouts so they had gay people in them for at least a hundred years or so just based on my age, so the conservative huffing and puffing about this is ridiculous. Where does any kind of sexual discussion ever happen in the scouts....making bird houses is fun but its not really sexy or lead into discussions of personal life. And for those idiots still obsessed with the notion that gay men are predators of guileless young boys, when we went camping at least one of our dads went along to help out. Your safer with your scout master then you are with your priest....(well back in the day at least, now they probably have spy cams in the sacristy.)

    However I woulda loved having pre outrageously fat and crazy Alex Baldwin as my scout master! Also love the Naked Gun movies but just cant watch O.J. being funny.

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    1. I liked the Militia when I was a kid. Liked the idea - I was very devout, you know. I suppose that is too 1950's-60's as well. I was a cub scout, but I quit after my dad stole all the money I earned selling popcorn balls - which is why the Militia probably appealed to me more than scouts - he wasn't interested in religious stuff. Do I sound like that old lady in the BMW X5 commercials with her crazy stories?

      I think 3rd World countries have better programs for kids - sweat shops and stuff - keeps them busy.

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    2. Terry, thanks for being able to laugh at those things and sharing them! Your dad probably would have taken the money you made selling scapulars anyway.

      You were such a better kid then me!!! If we were in class together we probably wouldn't have been friends......you wouldn't have given me the time of day Mr Prayer Boy!!!

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    3. Backhanded compliments from a less pious person?

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    4. Hans...if you look for the negative you shall find it..I think Terry is terrific!

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