Monday, October 22, 2012

The Birth Certificate - something is off.

Fr. Malloy Mysteries...

I don't pay a lot of attention to the Birthers who claim Obama isn't a citizen - obviously the powers that be didn't care and certifed the election.  It remains an interesting conspiracy theory - but is it more than that?  I don't know.  However, Fr. John Malloy has a provocative post pointing out a few major discrepencies regarding the President's birth certificate.  Here they are:
        1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can
the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the
term wasn't even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's
birth as August 4,1961 & Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father.
No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that
his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born
in "Kenya, East Africa". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern,
except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole
years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How
could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet
exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the
"British East Africa Protectorate".

3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place
of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be,
because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "Kaui Keolani
Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The
name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital
until 1978, when these two hospitals merged.

How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate
dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media ?

4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama’s book on his father. He states
how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I’m not a math genius, so
I may need some help from you. Barack Obama’s “birth certificate” says
his father was 25 years old in 1961 when he was born. That should have
put his father’s date of birth approximately 1936—if my math holds
(Honest! I did that without a calculator!) Now we need a non-revised
history book—one that hasn’t been altered to satisfy the author’s goals—
to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how
many 3 year olds fight in wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his
father wouldn’t have been more than 9. Does that mean that Mr. Obama
is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or
political purposes (still qualifies as a “liar”)?  - Taken from A Shepherd's Voice


I have a call in to Michele Bachmann to get to the bottom of this.

Photo: Obama with his mother and second husband and half sister from that marriage.  Obama's dad had numerous children.  Obama's family life was anything but stable.


  1. I've read all these assertions debunked somewhere. And it was by a conservative author who had no love for Obama.

    I think most of them would be easy to debunk with a little research.

    In any event, his mother is a US citizen. We also have to remember that "natural-born US citizen" means "not naturalized", and the specifics have been kind of murky at times, but -

    If Obama has a US passport, can vote, and has an SSN, he is a US citizen. If he has never gone through a naturalization process, he is a natural-born citizen. Simple. :)

  2. Jaime9:34 AM

    Terry, while not arguing for the authenticity of the copy of the birth certificate released by the Obama administration (if there's nothing to hide, why put so much effort into hiding it?) the document does not contain the expression "AFrican-American" at all. Perhaps a small point, but so obvious to check that it creates an easy opening for anyone who wants to attack the notion that Obama is either unqualified or unfit for his present position.

  3. Just having fun here.

  4. debunked

    But the last one is brow-raising

  5. Re: “In 1961 people of color were called “Negroes.” So how can the Obama “birth certificate” state he is “African-American” when the term wasn’t even used at that time?”

    ANSWER: First it does not say “African-American.” It says “African.” Only African.

    The explanation is simple. In Hawaii you were allowed to use any word you wanted to describe your race. There was no checklist, and no one stood over you saying what you had to enter. There are entries in Hawaii of people listing their race as “American.” So you were allowed to use any word you wanted.

    And what was the word that African exchange students commonly used to describe their race in the 1960s? Answer: African.

    Re: 2. “… Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known then as the “British East Africa Protectorate”.”

    Answer. You are out of date with that name. Kenya stopped being called the British East African Protectorate in 1920. In that year it was renamed. What was the name? THE KENYA COLONY.

    In short, it was called Kenya (Kenya short for “The Kenya Colony”), and it was in East Africa, so the entry Kenya, East Africa is correct.

    Re: “3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. ”

    Answer: You are referring to two other hospitals. But, Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital DID exist in 1961.

    How do we know? Well, on WND’s site there are birth certificates for the Nordkye Twins, born one day after Obama in the same hospital, and what is the name of the hospital on their birth certificates? Answer: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.

    Finally, Obama's book clearly says that his GRANDfather fought in WWII, and in fact his GRANDfather really did fight in WWII. Obama's book did not say, nor did Obama (though there is a forged video that claims that he said it) that his father, who was indeed too young to fight in WWII, fought in WWII.

  6. Terry, your tin foil hat is slipping...

  7. Today I learn about birth certificates in the United Kingdom.A birth certificate is a vital way of recording the birth of a new baby. It also helps countries and local councils keep a close check on the population growth. There are two forms to which the term birth certificate can refer to. The first is known as the original document, the second is a certified copy which represents the original record of birth.
    The birth certificate gives the individual an official identity from the moment it is born. Since 1827 the registering of births and also deaths and marriages has been common practice in the United Kingdom. Initially there were no fines for not registering the arrival of a new baby boy or girl, that however, changed before long because keeping an eye on the changes in population numbers, gave a better indication of the spending required in the coming years ahead, in terms of education, transport, and any the availability of manpower, should the need arise. Possibly due to Britain's acquisition of countries it called its commonwealth, the racial mix of the British population was very varied. Every birth certificate from the United Kingdom, will include details about the birth, such as the name and gender of the child, the name(s) of the parents, even sometimes the race of the baby is required. Crucially details like date of birth and location of birth add up to make up the identity of the person.


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