Monday, June 14, 2021

On Pope Francis

 


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  1. Not here in Canada right now. Francis has always been divisive but his refusal to apologize for the Indian Residential Schools has brought whatever popularity he had down to a pretty low level.

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    1. I'm sad to hear that - I suspect he will have more to say - he certainly condemned it in his Angelus - or was it at the Wednesday audience?

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    2. From what I understand the protocol is that the majority of bishops have to invite him. However, there is a delegation going to the Vatican in the fall. This was in the works last year but covid but a stop to that. But why couldn't the "management" (bishops and pope) have made that clear right after the news broke?!

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    3. How many of those children died during the Spanish flu - that would explain the mass graves. How many of those children died in the fire that burnt down the school (there's a plaque for the event in front of the school) Honestly.

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    4. dxv515 - one of the biggest killers in those schools was untreated TB. Another black mark on both government and school is that the dead bodies were not sent home (too "expensive") A school near my home had children run away and freeze to death. Nobody sent out a search party until the following day. The graveyards were not maintained because they "cost money." The children were seen as lower life forms and therefore expendable.

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    5. Angela is correct. They didn't want to 'waste' money on the indigenous children - they refused to send their remains home or to extend finances to help or alleviate suffering. It was all hidden, covered up, yet it eerily parallels a lot of the eugenic policies which influenced governments such as Nazi Germany. When people talk about the good old days, they are deluded.

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  2. Well Dorothy Day made her contribution alright, but Francis has a whole lot more people to mollify. I do not understand the lack of apology to indigenous people in Canada, but our history of violence to all indigenous peoples is pretty horrific. I expect he will but do not forget, as is always the case, governments lead the way. The Church followed willingly and is complicit.

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    1. I wonder if an apology is in the works?

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    2. Hi Terry,
      I read that Pope Benedict had issued an apology for what happened in Canada according to Cardinal Thomas of Toronto. I will have to look for the article and post it here.
      I have to ask, does every pope have to apologize? It is tragic what has happened in Canada to those poor children - no excuses.
      Cardinal Thomas was responding to comments made by Trudeau.

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    3. Hello again,
      I found the article about which I mentioned earlier with regards to what Cardinal Thomas Collins of Toronto says on this painful chapter in our beloved Church:

      Thanks to Cardinal Thomas Collins of Toronto for shedding more light on the matter. I, for one, was not aware that
      "Pope Benedict XVI apologized in 2009 to a delegation from Canada's Assembly of First Nations for the abuse experienced by children in residential schools. Benedict called the children's treatment "deplorable" in the same address. Collins also noted the Oblates of Mary Immaculate, who ran the Kamloops residential school, apologized in 1991."

      https://www.coastreporter.net/national-news/trudeaus-comments-unfair-about-church-and-residential-schools-toronto-archbishop-3849104

      Granted, for many, this will probably not suffice but at least you Terry, will hopefully read the article.

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  3. Hey Terry not to derail your post but here is explosive news - Lifesitenews found a coven on facebook that works with Voris and Niles to attack the SSPX...

    "LifeSite has since learned that Parks, who lives in Kansas, is a member of a secret Facebook group that appears to be clandestinely coordinating with Church Militant on how best to strategize in order to stifle this journalist’s reporting and to smear his public reputation. Some of the members of the group are ex-Catholics who mock the Church and curse SSPX priests online. More will be written about this group in a future LifeSite report."

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    1. Lifesite is the paranoid Catholic version of the National Enquirer.

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    2. Yeah, we'll see. LifeSite is out for revenge against the Dragon-Lady.

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  4. the Dragon-Lady......I'm gonna use that....

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  5. I think I "get" the comparison to Dorothy Day, but in all my readings of her journals and biographies, I also get a sense of her value of and devotion to the TLM and her shock at the novelties she observed in the Masses she attended as a Catholic in NYC even decades before Vatican 2. I remember reading about her dismay at the altar being turned around facing the people at a Mass in the 1920's. There were activist priests even then. .

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