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Thursday, September 27, 2012

Banal Messages from Heaven




In our days with so much unrest and division, error and apostasy, wars and rumors of wars, as well as persecution of Christians, do you really think all Our Lady has to say is this:
“Dear children! When in nature you look at the richness of the colors which the Most High gives to you, open your heart and pray with gratitude for all the good that you have and say: ‘I am here created for eternity’ – and yearn for heavenly things because God loves you with immeasurable love. This is why He also gave me to you to tell you: ‘Only in God is your peace and hope, dear children’. Thank you for having responded to my call.” - September 25, 2012
 
Really?

Imagine Our Lady saying such things at Fatima.
 

14 comments:

  1. You just gave me an idea for a post. Thanks!

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    1. Like I said in my previous post - I am the go to source, aren't I.

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  2. Though I don't mean to endorse either Medjugorje on the whole, nor that this particular message is actually from Our Lady, I do question labeling the content of the message as "banal." All of what is contained in the content of that 'message' seems biblical and good to recall and interiorize. Being open to the presence of God, gratitude, yearning for Heaven, knowing how much God loves us and the priority of God above all else seems to me to be all aspects, though perhaps implicitly in some cases, of our worship at Mass as well as the teaching of saints throughout time.

    All in that message seems to me to be foundational and essential, and not banal. I think I remember a story about St. John and people complaining because all he talked about love so much.

    I think it could also be argued that, again, whatever the validity of 'message' as directly coming from Our Lady or not, genuine gratitude and thinking of God, prayer and yearning for Heaven, the realization that God is our only hope and peace: the lack of these in our world could well help to explain the evils you note in our days: unrest and division, error and apostasy, wars and rumors of wars, persecution of Christians.

    I wonder how many, even in the Church, truly know God's love for them - not intellectually, but personally, experientially. I think a deeper realization of that would make a difference in the way people treat one another - or, at least it ought to. I think St. James argued the same.

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    1. Excellent point Patrick - thanks.

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  3. It is such as these daily messages and her sign-off "thank you for answering my call" that makes the Vatican unsure about validating these apparitions.

    If these are true apparitions then ??? but if these be lies, someone will answer heavily for them.

    There are daily messages, daily. Our Lady's Apparitions have always been miraculous, out of the ordinary. Lourdes, Fatima, Guadaloupe, Akita,Walshingham, Knock etc None of them were banal, none of them "signed off", none of them continued EVERY day for years.

    I am sorry, but I find Medj. hard to accept.

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    1. I find it hard to accept as well - obviously. The messages present the greatest problems for me - obviously. People devoted to Medj are nevertheless quite sincere.

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  4. I do not wish to cast dispersion on the faith and sincerity of those who believe that these are true and honest apparitions. And for that reason I hope they are true.

    My only concern is IF these are false, the damage they may do to these very faithful. But if they are false the perpetrators of such a hoax would be guilty of leading the most innocent astray, and the warning scripture gives us for such as those is dire: better a millstone be tied around their neck.

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  5. Maybe Medj was the inspiration for SNL's Ed Glosser, trivial Psychic?

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  6. Yes, really! :)

    I observe nature with great pleasure, especially colours, and I am even more appreciative now that my eyesight is weakening as I enter the twilight of my life.

    I also thank God each day for my life – a wonderful gift for me and to the world, although some would disagree on the last point. :) And I know that I am made for heaven and the company of God for ever. True love is lasting.

    There are times too that I yearn for the company of those I know who have left this earth, and as I profess in the Creed, I look forward to the resurrection of the body and the life of the world to come.

    I am also happy to profess that I know, understand and fully accept in my heart that God loves me with immeasurable love. It is a wonderful freedom.

    I also know that Jesus gave his Blessed Mother to me when she stood alongside John at the foot of the Cross.

    And I am blessed to have reached the conclusion and accepted that Jesus is my peace, but not the peace the world gives.

    It is good to hear the Blessed Mother affirm me with her love and acknowledge my response to her call.

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    1. I'm so sorry Pilgrim - I should not be so dismissive. I just have trouble understanding - so I hope some resoultion and confirmation is given soon.

      I'm always edified by people like you with such good faith and devotion to Our Lady. Please pray for me. I will try to be more respectful in the future.

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  7. “The action of God, the Lord of history, and the co-responsibility of man in the drama of his creative freedom, are the two pillars upon which human history is built. Our Lady, who appeared at Fatima, recalls these forgotten values. SHE REMINDS US THAT MAN’S FUTURE IS IN GOD, and that we are active and responsible partners in creating that future.”

    • Cardinal Bertone, in his introduction to the CDF document on the Message of Fatima issued in 2000

    It seems that Our Lady is reminding us once again that Man’s future is in God when she asks in her Medjugorje message to say: “I am here created for eternity” and says that God has also sent her to remind us that our peace and hope can be found only in God.

    The world would want us to believe otherwise, that peace and hope can exist without God.

    Terry pointed to the many challenges we face in the present day, but is rather dismissive of all that Our Lady has achieved and said these past 30 years at Medjugorje, by assuming that everything is contained in this latest message.

    Our Lady reminds us, as she did at Fatima of the dangers to the world when it seeks peace without God. And, as at Fatima she warns of the consequences.

    However, Our Lady’s Fatima message wasn’t accepted or listened to either, not enough to prevent the spread of Communism and the persecution that came with it, just as she warned.

    Now she comes again to warn us of the dangers we face. Some listen, some respond and turn back to God. Others choose not to listen or accept the messages. That’s their freedom.

    But is it the same message as she gave at Fatima, Turn back to God. Convert. Change your lives. Change your hearts.

    Her first words at Medjugorje on June 24, 1981 were: “Peace, peace, peace, only peace. Reconcile with God and each other.”

    But who’s listening?

    If we listen to Jesus, if his words speak to our heart, then the words of Our Lady will also find a place in our heart, for she carries the Word of God.

    In a way, the world is revisiting Cana, Mary can see that the wine is running out of the marriage, the relationship the world has with God. She approaches her Son and says “They have no wine”. Then his mother says to us, “Do whatever he tells you.” And Jesus says, “Fill the jars with water.” But if the servants choose not to listen, then the miracle does not take place. The change can only take place when the servants respond. That’s why Our Lady says to us: “Thank you for responding to my call.”

    Those who have responded to the Medjugorje messages will vouch that miracles have taken place in their lives. I am one of hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions. Thank God!

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    1. That is beautiful - thank you. I just heard from a priest who witnessed some things at Medjugorje - so who am I to judge. I will try to be more respectful in future posts. God bless you Pilgrim.

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  8. Terry, I’m happy to pray for you. I’m in Medjugorje in two weeks time (again!) and I will present you to Our Lady while I am there. All answers can be found in prayer with the heart.

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    1. Thanks very much. I pray my night rosary on a rosary a devout woman gave me from Medjugorje - which had turned gold, her joy and devotion impressed me very much.

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