"I would not wish that he ends like Luciani".
Although I kind of thought that too.
Father Gabriele Amorth, chief exorcist of the Diocese of Rome has warned the new Pope Francis about a quick death following the fate of Pope John Paul I. "The Masons have their branches everywhere, even in the Vatican, unfortunately," Amorth said in an interview with the Italian newspaper "Il Giornale", which the newspaper "Österreich" online reported.
Amorth said that the new Pope Francis wanted a "poor church of the poor" like John Paul I "I would not wish that he ends like Luciani," commented the chief exorcist, the Freemasons aspire only after money and career, "they help each other," reported, "Österreich“" online. Father Gabriele maintains that they include the present Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti, a Freemason, as well as President Giorgio Napolitano. In principle, all politicians in power are subordinate to the Freemasons and the world was dominated by seven or eight people who kept all the money in their hands, said the 88-year-old priest, who is believed to have carried out 70,000 successful exorcisms. - New Pope
Hasn't Fr. Amorth heard the prophecies about death in the Holy Land yet? Or the Michael Voris video, "Someone is Going to Kidnap the Pope!" Such drama.
Hello? Ann?
Ann Barnhardt?
Is there truth to any of this? Those are some pretty wild accusations.
ReplyDelete"In principle, all politicians in power are subordinate to the Freemasons and the world was dominated by seven or eight people who kept all the money in their hands"
Really?
We had a lot of concrete work done at great expense... and now you tell me there are free masons.
ReplyDeleteLOL
DeleteYup. That about sums up my thoughts, too.
Bill - lol!
ReplyDeleteMerc - they are wild accusations.
You know, I hate to say this, but superstition can be manifest in many ways. I've long felt that exorcists should be like the holy angels - silent and working hard in the background (and sharing their knowledge with bishops and exorcists in formation). This kind of comment fuels the very kinds of suspicions that are useless, really. Does anyone really believe that God could not have prevented "the Masons" from killing the successor to Peter? Fools they are who waste their time on such things.
ReplyDeleteI wish Fr. Amorth would keep these kinds of concerns to himself. Seriously.
Did it ever occur to him that Pope John Paul I may have fallen victim to a Conclave that was not listening to the Holy Spirit?
In an interview some years ago, Pope Benedict discussed this. After saying he is convinced that Pope John Paul I is a saint, he responded to another question thus:
After that sudden death we were all a bit depressed. It had been a bad blow. Of course, after the death of Paul VI there was also sadness. But Montini’s had been a whole life, that had had its natural epilogue. He himself was expecting death, he spoke about his death. After such a great pontificate there had been a new beginning, with a pope of a different type but in full continuity. But that Providence had said no to our election was really a hard blow. Though the election of Luciani was no mistake. Those thirty-three days of pontificate have had a function in the history of the Church.
Source: http://www.30giorni.it/articoli_id_1503_l3.htm
Read what he says after that as he goes into more detail. It's closer to the bottom.
If God permits Pope Francis reasonable time in the Papacy, we can be assured that he either wills it or permits it, and God can bring good from it. If God feels a different man was needed and the Cardinals weren't listening, we may very well find a short pontificate. But, I doubt it.
Diane, I see no reason at all to think that John Paul I was elected by a conclave that wasn't "listening to the Holy Spirit." Nor do I think that was in any way what Cardinal Ratzinger intended to imply.
DeleteI think what he meant was that it seemed to the cardinals at the time that John Paul I died that God had said "no" to their choice. But he also said that JPI's election and his papacy served a purpose and were not a mistake; in other words, a purpose that was obviously part of God's plan. It is reasonable to suppose that it was this purpose that led the Holy Spirit to inspire the cardinals to elect him.
Pope John Paul I accomplished a great deal in a month. He rejected a coronation and regal trappings and the papal "we" (some people regret this, but it has been approved by all three of his successors). He reached an enormous number of people with his simple speech and set a style for his successors. His few teachings are still cherished by many. His charisma made him the first Pope of the media age. All this, to my mind, is important, and not just because it led the cardinals to elect someone just as (or even more) charismatic as his successor.
Something else fascinating: Luciani believed strongly there should be a non-Italian pope. He came to the conclave hoping for a pope of the poor - and was planning to vote for a Latin American cardinal who was also a religious (Aloisio Lorscheider of Brazil, a Franciscan). God did bring about his desire - in a roundabout way, a way that included his own election and sudden death, and two successors. But this is the way that God often likes to work. To top it all off, it seems quite extraordinary that Pope Francis, this Latin American cardinal of the poor should be in so many ways, in his simplicity of style and speech and even his smile, practically the reincarnation of Luciani. God acts in amazing ways!
(By the way, just how long is a "reasonable" time for a man to be Pope before we can be sure God hasn't decided the cardinals weren't listening and has just bumped him off?)
Terry - I know others have brought this up, so I'll add my voice....
ReplyDeleteI wish you would toggle on the option in blogger that allows for social media sharing.
If you go into "Layout" and hit the "edit" button for the "blogpost" field, scroll down and you will see a check box for share buttons. It's that easy.
Of course, it's your blog, so I just offer it as a suggestion.
If you toggle that on, we can share your posts to Facebook, Twitter, and Google Plus with a single click. Sometimes, I like to share your posts.
Diane - thanks! I did do that after Elena mentioned it - but for some reason it doesn't post. I checked the box and hit save, but it doesn't apply.
ReplyDeleteHow could Fr. Amorth possibly carry out 70,000 exorcisms: was he doing ten a day, all year long, for 20 years? That doesn't sound likely: sort of a drive-through service!
ReplyDeleteNuts! Someone who knows code would have to look at your template and see if they can figure it out. That person would not be me.
ReplyDeleteI like that Francis took Benedict's pallium; I think it's Benedict's prayers that will get Francis through the tasks he must perform, whatever those are.
ReplyDeleteBeautiful thought!
DeleteI want to form a garage band called "End like Luciani".
ReplyDeleteI thought the John Paul I conspiracies had all been debunked to everyone's satisfaction. I guess for some it's just a much less interesting world without someone lurking in the grassy knoll.
For a thorough debunking of the John Paul I conspiracy theories, go here:
ReplyDeletehttp://subcreators.com/blog/investigation-of-the-death-of-pope-john-paul-i/
The first two installments have a lot about the "Masonic" theory and how it got started.