Tuesday, March 31, 2015

RFRA: Indiana, Arkansas, and counting ...

Religious Freedom Restoration Act

The redefinition of  RFRA story is all over the news and Catholic blogs this week, and a referendum like it will probably be coming to your state soon... if it stands in Indiana I might add.

It's about legal protection for people who refuse to provide goods and services for persons who want to use them for purposes contrary to the merchants religious beliefs.  Kind of like baking a cake for a gay wedding, only the baker says he can't because doing so would be an act approving of something which goes against his conscience and which his religious beliefs condemn.  It's more complicated than that of course - but that's the popular understanding.

There is a cultural agenda, a sea change in the works, and the gay marriage issue is the weapon to silence religious moral teaching.  The WSJ calls it a reversal of tolerance:
The paradox is that even as America has become more tolerant of gays, many activists and liberals have become ever-more intolerant of anyone who might hold more traditional cultural or religious views. Thus a CEO was run out of Mozilla after it turned out that he had donated money to a California referendum opposing same-sex marriage. 
Part of the new liberal intolerance is rooted in the identity politics that dominates today’s Democratic Party. That’s the only way to explain the born-again opportunism of Hillary Clinton, who tweeted: “Sad this new Indiana law can happen in America today. We shouldn’t discriminate against ppl bc of who they love.” 
By that standard, Mrs. Clinton discriminated against gays because she opposed gay marriage until March 2013. But now she wants to be seen as leading the new culture war against the intolerant right whose views she recently held. 
The same reversal of tolerance applies to religious liberty. When RFRA passed in 1993, liberal outfits like the ACLU were joined at the hip with the Christian Coalition. But now the ACLU is denouncing Indiana’s law because it wants even the most devoutly held religious values to bow to its cultural agenda on gay marriage and abortion rights.

Liberals used to understand that RFRA, with its balancing test, was a good-faith effort to help society compromise on contentious moral disputes. That liberals are renouncing it 20 years after celebrating it says more about their new intolerance than about anyone in Indiana.
Everything is a battle these days.

It is so exasperating.  As I said to a friend in the com box on another post referencing the Indiana story:  "Weddings are over-rated. I'm ashamed of gay people for demanding them in the first place, as well as for upsetting the whole world with their ostentatious demands. I'm totally serious."  But that's just my personal opinion.  I'm against gay marriage.

Fact is, everything in modern life is a battle - nearly everything in popular culture militates against the faith.  What is completely lost on contemporary culture is the reality of just discrimination.  There is such a thing, and for religious persons, it comes up in direct relationship to equality issues as they relate to gender issues and homosexuality.  I will cite some considerations from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith - another document often ignored by Catholics - and despised by gay Catholics.

"As in every moral disorder, homosexual activity prevents one's own fulfilment and happiness by acting contrary to the creative wisdom of God."
4. In reference to the homosexual movement, the letter states: “One tactic used is to protest that any and all criticism of or reservations about homosexual people, their activity and lifestyle, are simply diverse forms of unjust discrimination” (no. 9)
5. “There is an effort in some countries to manipulate the Church by gaining the often well-intentioned support of her pastors with a view to changing civil statutes and laws. This is done in order to conform to these pressure groups' concept that homosexuality is at least a completely harmless, if not an entirely good, thing.
6. “She (the Church) is also aware that the view that homosexual activity is equivalent to or as acceptable as the sexual expression of conjugal love has a direct impact on society's understanding of the nature and rights of the family and puts them in jeopardy” (no. 9).
7. “It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the Church's pastors wherever it occurs. It reveals a kind of disregard for others which endangers the most fundamental principles of a healthy society. The intrinsic dignity of each person must always be respected in word, in action and in law. 
But the proper reaction to crimes committed against homosexual persons should not be to claim that the homosexual condition is not disordered. When such a claim is made and when homosexual activity is consequently condoned, or when civil legislation is introduced to protect behavior to which no one has any conceivable right, neither the Church nor society at large should be surprised when other distorted notions and practices gain ground, and irrational and violent reactions increase.”
10. “Sexual orientation” does not constitute a quality comparable to race, ethnic background, etc. in respect to non-discrimination. Unlike these, homosexual orientation is an objective disorder (cf. Letter, no. 3) and evokes moral concern.
11. There are areas in which it is not unjust discrimination to take sexual orientation into account, for example, in the placement of children for adoption or foster care, in employment of teachers or athletic coaches, and in military recruitment. - CDF: Considerations

Documents such as this from the CDF is one of many reasons Christians are under attack in the public square, and the Catholic Church is the main target.  Indifference on the part of Catholics can't persist, since we are morally obligated to defend Catholic teaching.  As the CDF document makes clear:

Finally, where a matter of the common good is concerned, it is inappropriate for Church authorities to endorse or remain neutral toward adverse legislation even if it grants exceptions to Church organizations and institutions. The Church has the responsibility to promote family life and the public morality of the entire civil society on the basis of fundamental moral values, not simply to protect herself from the application of harmful laws (cf. no. 17). - CDF: Considerations

I'm not a Church authority, but a baptized Catholic, and I uphold Catholic teaching.

Welcome to the final confrontation.
We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think that wide circles of the American society or wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel and the anti-Gospel. This confrontation lies within the plans of divine providence. It is a trial which the whole Church… must take up.
We must prepare ourselves to suffer great trials before long ...
We must be strong and prepared and trust in Christ and in his Holy Mother and be very, very assiduous in praying the holy rosary. - Blessed John Paul II 

Disclaimer! Disclaimer!

All rightey then. I know so very little about weddings.  I don' know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies nieder.   Forgive me.  I didn't realize the servers got so involved: the baker-florist and everyone else, all end up part of the show. My mistake. I know nothing about marriage and never wanted to because I never could be married - thought of it twice and got close to the planning once, but thank God, I realized I'm not the marrying kind.

That said - when I wrote weddings are over-rated anyway - I meant weddings are over-rated by popular culture - the spectacle - the party- the glamour - the moment in the sun, all of that plays into into gay ostentation and drama.  At least that was what I meant when I said weddings are over-rated.   Likewise, it seems to me the way marriage is treated in today's culture it has lost much of its meaning - outside the sacrament of matrimony at least.  

I come from a wretched background.  Forgive me.  

Don't pay any attention to me.

But just for the record - I do not for a minute accept gay marriage.

How's that?  ;)


  1. And to think it is only going to get worse.

    So much noise over this. I know it is important but with my brethren being slaughtered elsewhere for professing Christ, I just can't get too riled up.

  2. Excellent post, Terry. I'll be using some of this tomorrow (with proper attribution, of course.)

    I'm with Yaya. People are worried about a wedding cake when Christians are being chopped up like so much chicken liver?

    You may want to read this:


    1. I recently read a post in the combox over at Crux about homosexual "marriage" and those involved insisting the rest of us "get with the program" and accept it as their right.

      Someone else replied that they won't have many rights if ISIS takes over as they will all be hung by the many lampposts that line the streets of the U.S. A. for being homosexual.

      I cringed at the thought but remembered the Old Testament accounts of Sodom and Gomorrah. I do not what our Lord God has in mind as many continue to push their agendas and go against natural law but we best keep praying as Terry quoted St. JPII,

      "We must prepare ourselves to suffer great trials before long ...
      We must be strong and prepared and trust in Christ and in his Holy Mother and be very, very assiduous in praying the holy rosary."

      I do not wish for their deaths nor do I wish them harm but I will continue to hope and pray for their conversion and salvation along with everyone else's.

      St. JPII pray for us!

    2. However, .this is about so much more then Grandma Clampet in Skunk Hollow in Kentucky whose only exposure of an out gay person is Will and Grace and Jerry Springer..those cases are few and far between and we both know it. The real thrust of this law is indeed a last desperate, pathetic attempt to force the homos back where they should be, and reassert right wing Christian dominance of society,,but hidden as cowards do, in something else., unfortunatly in this case behind Christ's robes. The real thrust, and the reason that the dim Governor of Indiana is backtracking and finding his butt on fire, is that this law could do much more then stop the flow of baked goods to "sodomites." and it could allow a Catholic hospital to not allow a gay partner to see their partner (and we thought those bad old days were behind, lo and behold the God Fearin' have brought em back!) gay people to get fired not for their work output but because they live with someone of the same sex, and yes, an establishment can deny a gay couple service. That is very bad for business and its not surprising that its states that fought so long and hard to wallow in their ignorance about equal rights for minorities that are the states that once again, are struggling in the tar pits because of this.

      So yea, I am kind of sick of this bullshit too. I live in civilization, but imagine those people who are living in Alabama, Indiana, Kentucky and whatever state where hillbillies marry by the dozens but homos just have to keep their mouths shut? Who have to hide in a closet for fear they are may loose their jobs, their health insurance. Those people are far from gay "activists," and just want to live their lives, but some nutjob could fire them in a minute, just for that fact.

      Interesting that you bring up someone posting about ISIS and being hung by lamp posts,(no doubt that is their private fantasy and they would be swinging right next to me..) because that is what unchecked religious dominance does to a society. If you don't believe that a totally Catholic run state would resort to the same I invite you to check out Crisis Magazine or any of the other trad sites where a discussion of this topic quickly shows that those good, faithful Catholics that are sure to get to Heaven ahead of me drop their guard and start calling people "queers," "sodomites," ..."homo"sex"uals," "pansies," (lol as if we didn't know the demos, and intelligence level of Crisis readers that tells you right there) and start going into indepth detail about anal sex... The gay "activists," are their because of them..they have no one else to blame them themselves. I am a very moderate person and my time on Catholic blogs really has made me..not so moderate and exposed the dark hearts that these cowards use to hide behind their faith and made me for the first time in my life, despite everything, want to chuck it all...no doubt they would be happy as they want the faith to be their little "club." I have really never seen as many hateful people then on Catholic blogs...(this blog is an exception and I am not talking about anyone here)

      And yes, there is a lot more going on in this world, but because you are straight this does not effect you and your life or your family so its easy to say that. Problems do not make other problems go away.

      Sorry for the rant. But the religious right have overextended themselves and been deaf and blind to what is going on and now it is coming back to expose a great many of these people for who they really are.

    3. "However, .this is about so much more then Grandma Clampet in Skunk Hollow in Kentucky whose only exposure of an out gay person is Will and Grace and Jerry Springer.."


      Thanks Mack - you can rant here anytime.

      I think the Supremes are expected to extend same sex marriage rights to the whole country - but I haven't seen breaking news yet.

    4. Thanks Terry, I have had my morning coffee and feel ever so much better!!!!

    5. I don't know how you can restrain yourself so well. I like your comments because you tell the 'other side' of things. Thanks.

  3. Lawmakers need to pick their battles. This ship has sailed.

    1. And ... that train has left the station.



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