Monday, March 24, 2014

Cardinal against Cardinal



Some Catholics appear to be worried, up in arms about reports on the discussions between Cardinals over the question of admitting divorced and remarried persons to Holy Communion. In an interview recently, Cardinal Burke said that he hopes Cardinal Kasper will correct his 'error' on the matter.

There is still time.

These are discussions - not decrees. The Synod hasn't even started yet.  The official discussions and debates haven't even taken place yet.  Lay people are paying way too much attention to the media reports, the interviews, the 'leaks' - and they are creating a furor over rumor and gossip.

Journalists are paid to write about this stuff, as John Allen does here:

It’s cardinal vs. cardinal, round two, on the issue of allowing Catholics who divorce and remarry without an annulment -- a declaration from a church court that their first marriage was invalid -- to receive the sacraments.
Round one came in January, when Honduran Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga, coordinator of Pope Francis’s “G8” council of cardinal advisers, took on German Cardinal Gerhard Müller, the pope’s doctrinal czar.
Müller had published a piece in the Vatican newspaper seeming to close the door to any change, prompting Rodriguez Maradiaga to take him to task in an interview with a German newspaper.
“I say, my brother, the world isn’t like this, and you should be a little flexible when you hear other voices,” the Honduran prelate said.
Now, we have more crossfire between two princes of the church, though in this case the testy public rebuke is coming from someone who upholds the traditional discipline: Cardinal Carlo Caffarra of Bologna, widely seen as a strong conservative and one of the late John Paul II’s key advisers on bioethics and marriage and family issues.
Caffarra gave a lengthy interview this week to the Italian newspaper Il Foglio, in which he was asked to respond to a speech given by German Cardinal Walter Kasper during a recent two-day session for all the world’s cardinals with Pope Francis. In that speech, which he called an “overture,” Kasper floated the idea of readmitting the divorced and remarried to communion after a period of penance.
Asked about that idea, Caffarra bluntly said it fails to answer a “very simple” question: What about their first marriage? - Boston Globe

Read it.  Think about it.  But wait for the Synod to start, and then wait for it to be completed.  Wait for the decree which results to be promulgated, rather than speculate on what could happen.  Quit scaring people and causing trouble.

In the meantime pray.

And pay attention to what the Pope actually says:

In extemporaneous remarks to members of Carollo, an Italian association of broadcasters, Pope Francis said that the “sins of the media” are misinformation, calumny, and defamation. The last two, he said, “are grave, but not as dangerous as the first.”
The Pope said that calumny (which involves falsehoods) “is a mortal sin” and defamation (which involves truths that unjustly damage a person’s reputation) “is a mortal sin." - CWN

30 comments:

  1. I am little too young (but not by much) to remember personally all the events leading up to Humanae Vitae. But I do know that, before Pope Paul VI released his encyclical, priests were actually telling their parishioners to go ahead and use birth control because it was sure to be approved by the Vatican. The whole divorce and remarriage issue seems to be history repeating itself.

    Back in 1968, anyone who truly understood and wanted to understand church doctrine knew that birth control could never be approved. Anyone who understands church doctrine now understands that there is no way the Church can approve of a divorced and remarried person receiving the Sacraments. As you say, Terry, people need to listen to the Pope.

    And before everyone starts panicking and declaring the sky is falling, "stand still and see the salvation of the Lord." None of us out here have any idea what is really going on, and speculation is just plain harmful to souls.

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    1. I forgot about the chatter and misdirection before Humanae Vitae was promulgated. My own mother urged my sister t use the pill saying that it would soon be approved by the Church. Thanks for the reminder.

      People have to remember that Paul VI went against the so-called 'voice of the faithful' and advice of his close associates to issue Humanae Vitae condemning artificial contraception.

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    2. Wait for the decree after the synod. Have faith and pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

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    3. That proves literally nothing. And Rorate has been trying since day one to sow dissent and hatred towards Francis.

      Terry says wait for the synod. Anyone publishing their little speculations is until then doing the work of Satan.

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    6. Yes, if you assume that our recent popes did not venerate Mary and that they accept compromises.

      But certainly sowing discord and hatred, and making judgments based on speculation are grave dangers no matter what period of the Church we are talking about.

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    8. Yes, "the faithful" are the readership of Rorate Caeli.

      And please tell me of a time in the Church when bishops and cardinals did not clash and scheme against one another. Also, please tell me how the situation is worse now than it was in the 80s and not better.

      And yes, "The Horror!" and other hit pieces are nothing but "hateful", dishonest, and filled with disgusting calumny.

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    10. Oh, okay, I'm guilty of calumny now. Uh-huh. So Rorate didn't run a hit-piece the day of Francis' election? And speculation and judgement of the Pope based on what some folks think *might* happen is not gossip? And I idolize the pope because I assume he is the visible head of the Church and his positions merit more attention for that reason alone than some first-world blog?

      You also apparently do not understand what "approved by the Church" means re: private revelations. And even if it was as binding as Scripture, it still wouldn't mean it refers to what you think it refers to.

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    12. Dude, I didn't even read what you said. Except your last line, which proves you don't understand private revelation and its authority, especially since the words you quoted are pretty vague and can be interpreted for any period in the Church, but *especially* for the previous few decades.

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  3. Yeah, but Terry, you forget that bloggers wouldn't have anything to write about if they waited until everything was done. Instead, they'd have to pay attention to their jobs, their families, paying the bills, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, etc etc

    Sr Patricia said she was invited to attended the Synod, but she turned down the invitation because she no longer believes in syn.

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    1. Maybe she could audition for The Voice instead.

      What?

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    1. I didn't read this, because anyone who uses the term "neo-Catholic" need not be taken seriously. It is a deliberate term of abuse aimed at the vast majority of *faithful* Catholics, and unworthy of use by Christians.

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    3. No, he hasn't. That's a perception. And the point is that layman Ferrara's use of a term to describe the overwhelming majority of faithful Catholics is a consistent term that means "not really Catholic (like me)."

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  5. I'd imagine that the view of the Pope of "how things should be" carries more wait than a layman with a penchant for venomous attacks on those who don't agree with him. And the pope has not invented a pet term to disparage the vast majority of faithful Catholics.

    And no, I refuse to read anything written by Ferrara.

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    2. I guess you haven't looked hard enough.

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  6. I have found that seeking spiritual direction and sitting in an Adoration chapel is much more efficacious and good for the soul than wringing one's hands and arguing in a combox.

    The way this argument is going on, you'd think it's scandalous that the Holy Spirit doesn't seek counsel from places like Rorate Caeli on how to guide and protect the Church.

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    1. Ok, that was really funny.

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  7. Looks as if I should have been moderating comments all along - moderation is on now.

    If mercury hadn't engaged you ADTP, you'd be out of here as well.

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    1. I did clear your comments ADTP. You have so much to say, I think it may be time for you to start your own blog. God bless!

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