Wednesday, October 10, 2012

What I think about that.

"One must in no way overlook the negative consequences that can derive from the ordination of persons with deep-seated homosexual tendencies."

I've written a ton of stuff on the subject of SSA priests...  You know that.  But let's revue.  What follows is an excerpt from an earlier post on the subject. 

The Church does indeed ordain men who are SSA.  Despite former documents discouraging it, many priests and bishops insist the Holy See permits it.  From recently retired Bishop Matthew Clark of Rochester:
There was, as you know, a lot of attention given to that by the Holy See over the years, and one of their statements left the impression that under no circumstances could a person of gay orientation be ordained a priest. And that's not so.

If a person's sense of himself as a gay individual inevitably leads him to campaign against the Church's formal teachings or live a lifestyle that is upsetting to the community or scandalous, such a person would not be an apt candidate for the priesthood. But if a person understands that and lives a lifestyle that is compatible with what we ask of all of our priests, then I'm happy to receive them.
“The fundamental concern of formation for a life of celibate chastity is for sexual maturity, not sexual orientation,” he said at the time. “Good seminary formation needs to provide an environment in which both heterosexual and homosexual candidates can grow to commit themselves wholeheartedly, even joyfully, to chaste and faithful celibacy.” - Source
But what does the Holy See really say?  Well.  It kind of does say that SSA men can be ordained: 
Deep-seated homosexual tendencies, which are found in a number of men and women, are also objectively disordered and, for those same people, often constitute a trial. Such persons must be accepted with respect and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. They are called to fulfil God's will in their lives and to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter[8].

In the light of such teaching, this Dicastery, in accord with the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, believes it necessary to state clearly that the Church, while profoundly respecting the persons in question[9], cannot admit to the seminary or to holy orders those who practise homosexuality, present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or support the so-called "gay culture"[10].

Such persons, in fact, find themselves in a situation that gravely hinders them from relating correctly to men and women. One must in no way overlook the negative consequences that can derive from the ordination of persons with deep-seated homosexual tendencies.

Different, however, would be the case in which one were dealing with homosexual tendencies that were only the expression of a transitory problem - for example, that of an adolescence not yet superseded. Nevertheless, such tendencies must be clearly overcome at least three years before ordination to the diaconate.

It goes without saying that the candidate himself has the primary responsibility for his own formation[21]. He must offer himself trustingly to the discernment of the Church, of the Bishop who calls him to orders, of the rector of the seminary, of his spiritual director and of the other seminary educators to whom the Bishop or major superior has entrusted the task of forming future priests. It would be gravely dishonest for a candidate to hide his own homosexuality in order to proceed, despite everything, towards ordination. Such a deceitful attitude does not correspond to the spirit of truth, loyalty and openness that must characterize the personality of him who believes he is called to serve Christ and his Church in the ministerial priesthood. - Criteria for the Discernment



  1. If a man is homosexually inclined then it would be a mistake to ask him to spend the next few years living closely with men in a seminary. Would it be appropriate for a normal male seminarian to be trained for the priesthood in a convent?

    1. Well, they live closely with other men in the military and seem to do alright.

  2. everyone thinks that just because a person lives with ssa that they are completely overtaken by same and uncontrollable. someone accepting ssa and living chastely does not go around 24/7 objectifying men for their sensual pleasure. i think catholics' many objections speak more about their own issues.


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