Wednesday, February 15, 2012

Sr. Jeannine Gramick dons a veil...




To promote Same Sex Marriage.

This is a serious step - dressing like a nun in public... AND to stand in opposition to Church teaching in an effort to support and promote same sex marriage.  This is not dissent, this is rebellion.  Gramick has already defied Vatican instructions to cease and desist her leadership role, as well as any involvement with New Ways Ministry and has gotten away with it for many years now.  Church leaders sympathetic to gay politics have turned a blind eye. What she is doing today is in open defiance of Church teaching.  The Church definitely has jurisdiction over religious men and women, and before exercising canonical disciplines toward secular politicians, it seems to me the Church first and foremost needs to deal effectively with neo-protestant clergy and religious like Jeanine Gramick.
Dissident nun misleads Catholics in Maryland.

At a recent event in Maryland, Sister Jeannine Gramick publicly claimed that the recognition of homosexual unions is an issue of Catholic morality, and that those who oppose it are immoral. This position, she stated, “flows from our own church’s social justice teaching.”

However, her statement is false. The Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly teaches that homosexual vice is “intrinsically disordered” and “contrary to natural law” (2357).

Sister Gramick further states: “... our church leaders have claimed that marriage must be between one man and one woman; that the definition of marriage has always been the same; that it cannot change. Well, this is simply not so,” she said. - Source

And she had the effrontery to wear a veil...  So why do I say it that way?  Because normally she wouldn't be caught dead in a veil.  Orders that have given up the habit believe the veil is sign of suppression and oppression.  They normally only resort to it when fund raising or trying to pull off something 'Catholic'.

2/18/12:  Here is another post about it: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/renegade-nun-priest-present-a-catholic-case-for-same-sex-marriage

12 comments:

  1. I"ll be the voice of dissent: good for Sr. Jeannine.

    Even if you disagree with her, you have to admit that she has courage.

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  2. Thom, with all due respect - why? I'm not trying to be provocative, I'm just wondering how you think this is good.

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  3. I believe she makes a valid argument in that civil marriage is not a sacrament. I believe that she isn't pulling this out of thin air- this is a closely held, much-examined belief that she advocates for strongly in spite of possible consequences. Additionally, she is a voice of compassion from the Church- one that is rarely heard. She resonates with not only gay Catholics who are struggling, but many others in the Church.

    I know you don't agree with me, and of course I don't expect you to. But those are my reasons.

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  4. No I don't agree. But I just want to know what you meant. Thank you.

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  5. Thom, OFS writes : "you have to admit that she has courage."

    Standing with the world does not take courage.

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  6. she has courage....

    You have mistaken stupidity for something virtuous like courage.

    Didn't you read the last post about a man and a woman being the ministers of a marriage?

    A civil marriage can be valid civilly if the intention is to have children.

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  7. If a civil marriage is less binding than a mortgage or similar contract in the country - what does it even mean anyway?

    I mean, can you imagine calling the credit card company and saying "you know what, I've decided on my own to end this. I'm just feel what I used to anymore"?

    'Cause it's that easy.

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  8. Thanks for your comments, Thom.

    For anyone interested, Jeannine Gramick and Francis DeBernardo recently had an excellent op-ed in The Washington Post. Entitled "A Catholic Case for Same-Sex Marriage," it can be viewed here.

    Peace,

    Michael

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  9. That isn't courage - it's actually cowardice; it's a subtle way of hiding behind the authority of the Church and the sign-value of her vocation (through the use of the veil), essentially borrowing from their own stock because she must feel herself bankrupt to 'go it alone' without, as T says, "trying to pull off something Catholic."

    True courage, always of course but especially today given so much resistance to the truth the Church teaches, is to actually be Catholic and stand with the Church.

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  11. This is the height of arrogance. Even if we grant Sister Jeannine Gramick is a "prophet" and has arrived at some truth prior to the bishops and the Pope, it's clear she has not followed the rightful rigourous standards for discernment because she has displayed no humility or prudence in going forward and "catechizing" from her own judgment and authority, especially on a matter of such grave importance.

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  12. I'm sure she has the best intentions.
    Peace

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