Tuesday, July 12, 2011

Michelle Bachmann's husband and the cure.

Will 'the gays' end up calling the election?
ABC News has the story:  Michelle Bachmann's husband's clinic claims to be able to cure homosexuals!  Oh!  My!  Gosh!  At least that seems to be the primary angle of the story:
A former patient who sought help from the Christian counseling clinic owned by GOP presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann and her husband, Marcus, told ABC News he was advised that prayer could rid him of his homosexual urges and he could eventually be "re-oriented."

"[One counselor's] path for my therapy would be to read the Bible, pray to God that I would no longer be gay," said Andrew Ramirez, who was 17-years-old at the time he sought help from Bachmann & Associates in suburban Minneapolis in 2004. "And God would forgive me if I were straight."

In the past, Marcus Bachmann has disputed the clinic has treated gay patients this way. But Ramirez's account, which was first reported by The Nation, is similar to the counseling session that appears on new undercover video shot by a gay rights advocacy group last month. That footage shows another counselor at the Bachmann clinic telling a gay man posing as a patient that, with prayer and effort, he could eventually learn to be attracted to women and rid himself of his gay urges. - Continue reading here.
Gay activists and their liberal allies are really gunning for Bachmann.  Everyone knows it is totally politically incorrect to suggest a person with  homosexual inclination can change his orientation.  Just as it is totally politically incorrect to suggest homosexuality is a choice.  Whatever.  The behavior is certainly a choice - and one can always stop that.  Man is born with free will and some men can change if a powerful motivation to do so is there.  I've met them - I have gay friends who married women and lived happily ever after - pretty much.  Frequently we hear of men and women changing from hetero to homo behavior, so what's so impossible about the reverse?   Oh!  Oh!  I'm a bad man for saying that.
As far as Minnesota's other losing candidate, Tim Pawlenty, he will not fare much better since gay activists are now claiming he believes homosexuality is a choice.   He really didn't say that however.  It doesn't matter anyway - Pawlenty is also against gay marriage.  DOA at the polls, huh?  BTW - as my readers know, I'm against gay marriage too.
Disclaimer:  No poodles were harmed by this post.  One more thing, this post was written before ABC's Nightline aired. 


  1. I read the article yesterday and was amazed at how the MSM tried to twist what Mr. Bachmann was doing into some crazy discredited treatment. Everything he is doing sounds perfectly rational to me.

    We live in a world where sodomy has become normal and saying it's not makes you homophobic.

    Don't even get me started on St. Cecelia's...

  2. For the record, the Church approved apostolate of *Courage* does not particularly advocate change therapy. If some members want to pursue it, the apostolate supports them, but recognizes that one's orientation is not something freely chosen. However, there is therapeutic evidence that a highly-motivated person can overcome their homosexual inclinations to such a degree that they become more heterosexually oriented than same-sex attracted. And there's nothing wrong with that. Also, those of us who feel we're too hard-wired (for lack of a better term) to undergo such therapy do have the benefit of prayer and practicing virture to remain chaste (in accordandce with my state in life); the same calling of every baptized Catholic.

    Why do people believe that if one is same-sex attracted, you have no other choice than to behave that way? You do choose your behavior. Why is it deemed hateful by the Church to be expected to practice virtue and not sin?

  3. I sometimes find such teatment a bit outré, but at the same time, why is it seen as an uassailable dogma that once a person is gay, they can never, ever, "go straight", but that straight people can always "experiment" and find their true selves?

    What if they "gays" were just deluded into it? Why would a gay person have a problem with someone who leaves it and becomes hetero? Guys who leave hetero lives and become gay are praised for that.

  4. mercury: because that threatens the gay persons identity.

  5. Kinda like how the penalty for leaving Islam is death under Shari'a? Why would they need to do that if they were so secure?

  6. because to admit one is wrong about something so seemingly fundamental about the self would unravel their entire reason for being. everything is viewed thru the gay lens. gay is who they *are.* if you threaten that basis by saying it's even possible to change, for some, it's an implicit call to conversion and therefore a threat. the life built on the gay identity must be protected at all costs. those who defect "well, really were not gay to begin with then ... they were just experimenting" etc. if it is indeed possible to change, why then would anyone want to be gay and endure such loneliness? dejection? society must be convinced that gay is ok at all costs. if something were fundamentally wrong with the orientation, then the gay person would have to turn that high-powered lens of of analysis on themselves and do some deep soul-searching, and that's a mighty uncomfortable proposition.

  7. Doughboy said it very well. Even the remote possibility of changing their sexual orientation invalidates them. Their incredible narcissism needs their human behavior to be iron-clad.

    In essence, they deny the free will that God gave to them and the grace that God can give to them if only they would ask for it.

    They deny that heterosexual priests, nuns and even laypeople can stay celibate. That also invalidates them.

    Being homosexual is the most important thing in their life. Even those who profess to be Catholic, accept the Church's creeds only on their terms: homosexuality comes before God.

    You can bet that the vast majority of them are pro-choice and would like to see wymen priests. They like the Church because of the "smells 'n bells" and music and vestments; not for something to help them get to Heaven.

  8. Ray said: "Being homosexual is the most important thing in their life. Even those who profess to be Catholic, accept the Church's creeds only on their terms: homosexuality comes before God."

    You got that right.

  9. Aceman10:55 AM

    Looks like this counseling worked for Marcus, so maybe there is something to it? Hmmm.


  10. Ah, yes calling the "homophobe" a closeted gay is always the mature thing to do, ain't it?

  11. Aceman7:20 PM

    No--there are plenty of homophobes that are straight. But have you seen him, listened to him, watched him? Call it gaydar...

    Well, here, let's let Brother Barker speak for himself!



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