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Wednesday, April 13, 2011

Bishop Tobin regards homosexual persons with "respect, compassion, and sensitivity."



Faithful and charitable.
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Bishop Tobin may have surprised some when in an interview with a local news site he conceded, “People deserve human rights whether or not they’re gay.”  Although some people may disagree, especially those who would like to see homosexual persons exterminated from the face of the earth, there is nothing unusual or extraordinary in the Bishop's statements.  As to be expected, they accord perfectly with the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

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2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection. - CCC
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Bishop Tobin:  "The state should not be sanctioning behavior the Church regards as immoral."
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"In an exclusive interview, Roman Catholic Bishop Thomas Tobin said the Church is not opposed to granting some benefits and rights to gay couples—as long as the term marriage is not used.

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His statement—which was couched in caveats—nonetheless indicates a flexibility in the Church’s position that has previously been overlooked in the polarizing debate over gay marriage in Rhode Island.
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“The legislation we would support is what is often called ‘reciprocal benefits,’” Tobin told GoLocalProv. “It does not use marriage as a reference point. It would grant some legal benefits [and] some legal rights to two people who have some kind of established relationship without any particular reference to marriage. So it could be someone and their grandfather. Could be two cousins. Could be two elderly sisters.”
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Tobin declined to elaborate on exactly which legal benefits and rights he thought unmarried couples should have—saying that’s a question for legal experts. “People deserve human rights whether or not they’re gay,” Tobin said. “Now the reciprocal benefits [bill] recognizes some rights and some privileges irrespective of their orientation and that’s the key I think.”

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Tobin said he would not go as far as supporting civil unions, saying the church is as steadfastly opposed to civil unions as it is to gay marriage.
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“We would oppose what is commonly called civil unions because it’s really just another name for what would be same-sex marriage,” Tobin said. “We’ve found invariably whenever civil unions are introduced in a state that is quickly followed by full-fledged gay marriage.”
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“We think it is an ill-advised attempt to redefine the very basic parameters of marriage as they’ve existed from the very beginning of mankind—as the union of one man and one woman designed to create new life and to encourage the love of the spouses,” Tobin said.

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He also said the state should not be sanctioning behavior the Church regards as immoral and expressed concern that that a gay-marriage law could limit religious freedom. Even though the bill does not mandate that any church or other religious community perform gay marriages, Tobin said it could still force religious groups to grant benefits to gay couples.
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“The question whether or not some people are made that way—I think that’s still an open question. I’m not quite ready to cede that. But even if that is the case, that someone has that disposition, they still have the ability as human beings to control their behavior—otherwise there’s anarchy and chaos,” Tobin said.

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“The fact that a person is made a certain way is not immoral—again that’s the difference between orientation and activity,” Tobin said. “Having a homosexual orientation is no more or less immoral than having a heterosexual orientation. But, in both cases, whether it’s heterosexual or homosexual, we have to be able to control our behavior.” - Source

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Truth in charity.
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Photo credit:  Bishop Tobin

14 comments:

  1. As Christians we should live with love and a good example. No group of people should be singled out for extra hate. That would not be Christian.

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  2. There is nothing revolutionary in Bishop Tobin's statements. That being the point: we have to keep reiterating the same teaching over and over as people just don't seem to "get it"

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  3. I respect Bp. Tobin for "saying" what he has said. However, it will have teeth once Bishops stop trying to block every single piece of legislation that could give benefits to gay couples.

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  4. Not to worry, Thom, the Jesuits are already providing same sex benefits.

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  5. O, Ma-ree-a. My comment was legitimate, but I'll play along?

    Not to be outdone, Human Life International has offered the same benefits as the Jesuits!

    Now, can we get back to the issue at hand?

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  6. The bishop must have his own idea of what "respect, compassion and sensitivity" means...

    But then again all these ideas are their own and don't reflect the views of the laity.

    There is hope for the Catholic Church in the 67% of us that support rights for gay Americans.

    We know what Jesus was really about.. Despite all the hatred and lies rammed down our throats from the bishops -- Especially our very own John Neinstedt.

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  7. Wow, TJ, Jesus was cool with sodomy? Who'd a thunk? And to think an evil, oppressive church kept this "troof" hidden for almost 2000 years!

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  8. TJ - I'm sorry for your misunderstanding regarding our bishops who are faithful to the Gospel. Their teaching is in part directed at that 67% to help them form their consciences appropriately.

    The issues surrounding homosexuality today in the 21st century are novel ideas, having no precedence in history.

    Thom - I'm not sure a company providing benefits in domestic partnership situations (straight or gay)is in the same category as same sex marriage or civil union benefits, or the recognition there of. I'm sure there are people who will argue that point, but it seems to me that HR policies and the distribution of employee benefits is a business decision in favor of the employee. But it does not carry the weight or have the same effect as a legislative act.

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  9. I wonder about Bp. Tobin's opinion of legislation in Rhode Island in 2009 that would grant funeral rights to gay couples. (It was first vetoed by the then-governor, and then passed by a veto-proof majority.)

    Should gay partners be allowed to bury each other? That's not "marriage" or "civil unions," either.

    These are the kind of things that even often get opposed. That's what I'm speaking to in this case.

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  10. Here are my thoughts on Bishop Tobin's remarks: http://thewildreed.blogspot.com/2011/04/responding-to-bishop-tobins-remarks-on.html.

    Peace,

    Michael

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  11. Thank you for this.

    Would you mind if I forwarded this to him?

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  12. Mrs. Rudd, I would be honored, please tell him I pray very much for him. Thank you and God Bless.

    Terry

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  13. Terry - I just read Bayly's post, and in light of your email to me yesterday, you.are.absolutely.correct.

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