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Sunday, November 21, 2010

Church-people object to Bishop Wenski window.



Artless objectors and ecclesial art.
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When the renovated St. James Catholic Cathedral was dedicated  Saturday, the new stained-glass windows featured a few familiar faces: Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary — and Archbishop Thomas Wenski. - Full story here.
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Some of those objecting are claiming it is inappropriate for the bishop to be depicted at the crucifixion, others object that he is depicted wearing his vestments instead of the clothing of the period, and so on.
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So dumb.  Throughout history donors have been depicted in religious scenes and icons - wearing the appropriate attire of their age and station.  People who do not know anything about art and architecture should do some research before they speak.
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Speaking of church architecture and liturgy...
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Why is it the Orthodox Catholic Church never felt a need to modernize their churches or get rid of onion domes and iconastasis and modernize their vestments?  Why has their liturgy remained totally unchanged for centuries?  Why?

12 comments:

  1. Sounds like some folks need to find something to do rather than sit around and bitch about stupid stuff...how about shovelling snow at my place?? Got PLENTY here overnight...
    Sara

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  2. "Why has their liturgy remained totally unchanged for centuries? Why?"

    Because the basic theology has remained unchanged for centuries?

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  3. Exactly why is it inappropriate for anyone to be depicted at the crucifixion? After all, at each and every mass, that is exactly what is happening. Or don't we believe that?

    Peace

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  4. When you say Orthodox Catholic, do you mean Eastern Rite Catholics? If so, there have been changes; in the 12th century, the Orthodox changed the way they receive Communion and now receive leavened bread by intinction.

    The Ruthenians changed their translation a few years ago although Father is a bit of a maverick and doesn't use that version. Nobody likes the changes that were made.

    Churches here have pews and kneelers which are a modern invention.

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  5. Our church has a mural of the Ascension, completed about 10 years ago. One of the apostles has the face of the current(at the time) archbishop, another has the face of a deceased archbishop. When the archbishop was there for Confirmation, it gave him quite a jolt to walk in and see himself watching Christ ascend to heaven.

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  6. Three cheers for Andy!

    I'm with him on this one.

    Good on you, Andy.

    *

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  7. I had never heard of this tradition.

    I wonder if it would be possible to examine the windows in various churches with stained glass and see if it would be possible to identify the "founding bishop?"

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  8. Nan - thanks - I'm so ignorant about the other Churches.

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  9. Terry, you can change that on Dec. 12.

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  10. Don't they realize that one is present at Calvary during the Mass?

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  11. Terry, as a long-time amateur of good stained glass, I cannot hold back my criticism of this thing.

    I hope no one looks at it closely; it has a lot to say. The artist clearly used a model swooning on a soft bed; look at the sheer disobediance to the law of gravity in this thing.

    It is a poorly sanitized version of Good Friday at best; no real sorrow anywhere, least of all on the calm pietistic profile of the bish, whose bashed hat is thankfully forgetable because of the wooden frame in this window.
    This alone symbolizes something disliked by the artist and creates an awkward snarl.

    The pillars are symbolic, but useless too: and the one on the right is deliberately cracking at the base, or is it the vein of a phallic symbol?

    But isn't the model's hair coiffed so cute? And I bet if you look closely, there's mascara there.

    The soldier standing by is clasping his sanitized spear but the cut into the Sacred Heart is on the wrong side of the human body: any artist knows this.

    The rays of sunshine, a non biblical artsy touch, are shining on the soldiers; go figure !
    The artist is screaming at you: the cut over the Sacred Heart is on the wrong side.

    What's with a lightening bolt issuing from the Saviour's right hand? I think I can guess.

    Left hand clearly does not look like someone who's had it spiked to wood for a long time: looks like he wants his nails filed.

    The Beloved Disciple is in a doubtful pose; this is what bothers me the most since he is the greatest inspired genius of the New Testament and true author of both the 4th Gospel and the Holy Apocalypse. He is most under attack by the devilish author here. This artist has put more thinking into this thing than I thought. Is St.John the Divine concerned about our Blessed Mother?
    Or is he helping the bishop see something...or do something...or ... or ... or.
    His right hand is the most awkward thing in this whole thing....
    I better stop here. It'th a meth.

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  12. Terry, as a long-time amateur of good stained glass, I cannot hold back my criticism of this thing.

    I hope no one looks at it closely; it has a lot to say. The artist clearly used a model swooning on a soft bed; look at the sheer disobediance to the law of gravity in this thing.

    It is a poorly sanitized version of Good Friday at best; no real sorrow anywhere, least of all on the calm pietistic profile of the bish, whose bashed hat is thankfully forgetable because of the wooden frame in this window.
    This alone symbolizes something disliked by the artist and creates an awkward snarl.

    The pillars are symbolic, but useless too: and the one on the right is deliberately cracking at the base, or is it the vein of a phallic symbol?

    But isn't the model's hair coiffed so cute? And I bet if you look closely, there's mascara there.

    The soldier standing by is clasping his sanitized spear but the cut into the Sacred Heart is on the wrong side of the human body: any artist knows this.

    The rays of sunshine, a non biblical artsy touch, are shining on the soldiers; go figure !
    The artist is screaming at you: the cut over the Sacred Heart is on the wrong side.

    What's with a lightening bolt issuing from the Saviour's right hand? I think I can guess.

    Left hand clearly does not look like someone who's had it spiked to wood for a long time: looks like he wants his nails filed.

    The Beloved Disciple is in a doubtful pose; this is what bothers me the most since he is the greatest inspired genius of the New Testament and true author of both the 4th Gospel and the Holy Apocalypse. He is most under attack by the devilish author here. This artist has put more thinking into this thing than I thought. Is St.John the Divine concerned about our Blessed Mother?
    Or is he helping the bishop see something...or do something...or ... or ... or.
    His right hand is the most awkward thing in this whole thing....
    I better stop here. It'th a meth.

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