Photo above: No that is not Ms. Nicolosi at left, it is the feminist-author, Kate Millet. Ms. Nicolosi is in the lower photo.Barbara Nicolosi
It is no secret to people who know me that Barbara Nicolosi (Church of the Masses), at times, annoys the hell out of me. For several reasons that I do not need to go into here. However, one of the things that really bugs me about the woman is how she continually gets her jibes in about the baby-boomer generation - the generation without which, she would still be searching for a nunnery where she might fit in, or settling for a job, teaching physical education and drama at an all girls school. In other words, if it hadn't been for the feminists of the baby-boomer generation she wouldn't have a chance in hell of working in Hollywood. (Although she may have gotten a clerical position; proof reading, file clerk, secretary.)
Indeed, she reminds me of the '70's feminist, Kate Millet - in looks and attitude that is. Like it or not ladies, you are only where you are today because of the baby-boomer feminists - whom you so love to hate. Indeed, Hollywood women, pro-life Catholic or not, have to acknowledge women such as Kate Millett, author of Sexual Politics (1970).
Although not technically a baby-boomer (born in St. Paul, MN in 1934), Ms. Millet broke ground and criticised the power relationships and traditionally sexist roles which typified women in film. She lobbied for a more positive representation of women, along with promoting a sympathy towards women’s issues. Thus paving the way for baby-boomer women to experience a new freedom, approaching equality, in Hollywood, as elsewhere in politics, business, and public service. Her work became a proactive force to extend women’s involvement and contribution to art and politics. It was women like Kate Millet who paved the way for neo-con, arrogant Catholic women such as Ms. Nicolosi.
Oh, BTW, I wasn't a fan of Kate Millet either.
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ReplyDeleteHow rude. I certainly have no problem with you disagreeing with someone. But your personal attack on Ms. Nicolosi is un-Christian. Do unto others.
ReplyDeleteOh, and just because you think or feel something, you do not have to write it on your blog.
Ms. Nicolosi frequently takes pot shots at the baby-boomer generation and others on her blog, as well as in interviews, This is pretty much just my response. Thank you for your comments however.
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ReplyDeleteThe boomer generation (partially) only made the strides it did because of the ladies that came before them...the wives and mothers that went to work during WWII and showed the world that women could do a man's job. They made a loud statement although they quietly went back home after the war ended. My generation owes something to the boomer generation, but many don't like the anger, fanaticism and rabidness of the boomers. We also partially owe the decline of the family to the boomer generation, so no wonder many don't want to align themselves with those ladies.
I am fortunate to be able to stay home with my kids, but many families can't afford it because now having two working parents is the norm and the necessity.
Swiss Miss - Very good points.
ReplyDeleteYou are fortunate to stay home with your children. Two working parents - or one single parent - is the norm - although necessity is not always the case - unless you have 2 gas hog mini vans, an all terrain vehicle, a boat, a cabin, and all the trends in every category, etc. Don't forget the luxuries, fashion, make-up and hair, entertainment expenses, and dining out frequently - it's hard work to be affluent.
My next post may be about that, the well educated, working housewife soccer mom, with 1.2 kids and the new slavery of affluence. or something like that.
The complaints against boomers sometimes sounds like kids blaming bad parents for how their lives turned out. It gets annoying after awhile. Nevertheless every generation has issues with the previous generation - that's life.
But sincerely, thanks for your good comments. :)
Ironically, I had dinner with a family member of Ms. Millet's just recently. The family member noted that Ms. Millet is remarkable for a demeanor of complete bitterness and darkness, and that she is incapable of saying anything good about anyone or anything. This demeanor is the true legacy of the latter day women's movement, which was proudly Marxist and made abortion rights its end all and be all.
ReplyDeleteThe jury is still out on whether the Millet crowd's efforts were a net positive for women. Along with job opportunities, we have to factor in the blatant pornification of women which is also endemic today.
My mother used to say that what really freed women was the dishwasher, the microwave, the washing machine, and most recently, the computer.
I find the name-calling thing so ridiculously baby-boomerish of you. What defines many in your generation more than the divisive and unfair kneejerk to define and dismiss people? When are you guys going to learn that rage is not power - it just feels like it.
For the record, I'm not a neo-con. It is up to God to decide if I am arrogant. I am, however, Catholic, not that these labels have any place in a discussion of my ideas.
Give peace a chance.
Thanks Barbara!
ReplyDeleteThanks for saying thanks, Terry. If you are ever in L.A., do let me know so we can have coffee. I do occasionally associate with boomers, but you know, not in real public places...heh heh.
ReplyDeleteBarbara, I sincerely thank you and appreciate your kindness. You are also a woman "paving the way" as the label of this post indicates.
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ReplyDeleteNecessity might be too strong a word in many cases, like you said. Norm is more correct since many families do choose to have both parents working. I always knew that if I ever had kids I would quit work, much to the surprise of my husband's and my own family who thought I was just blowing smoke. It has been a very hard transition in many respects, but I think it is more because I haven't conformed to God's will for my vocation as easily as I thought I would! And, that's another point, I don't remember being taught to discern if my "vocation" was to work. Work may be a necessity for some, but in many cases work is chosen as a vocation equivalent to religious life or motherhood. I'm not criticizing working mothers, my own mother worked. I'm just saying many are reluctant to give up the material life (like you mentioned) and the family suffers...and society suffers. I do know several working mothers who do an EXCELLENT job in raising their children and catechising them.
BTW: What did you have for dinner last night? Nails?
Hi swissmiss. I had just sent a friend of mine this Raztinger Report quote and I think you'll like it. On women and liberation, Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger said, p 98:
ReplyDelete"Yes," he replies, "it is precisely woman who is paying the greatest price. Motherhood and virginity (the two loftiest values in which she realizes her profoundest vocation) have become values that are in opposition to the dominant ones. Woman, who is creative in the truest sense of the word by giving life, does not 'produce', however, in that technical sense which is the only one that is valued by a society more masculine than ever in its cult of efficiency. She is being convinced that the aim is to 'liberate' her, 'emancipate' her, by encouraging her to masculine herself, thus bringing her in conformity with the culture of production and subjecting her to the control of the masculine society of technicians, of salesmen, of politicians who seek profit and power, organizing everything, marketing everything, instrumentalizing everything for their own ends."
It continues.....a great read.
One more:
The Ratzinger Report, p 103
"But what is the woman to do when the roles inscribed in her own biology have been denied and perhaps even ridiculed? If her wonderful capacity to give love, help, solace, warmth, solidarity has been replaced by the economistic and trade-union mentality of the 'profession', by this typical masculine concern? What can the woman do when all that is most particularly hers is swept away and declared irrelevant and deviant?"
He continues: "Activism, the will to be 'productive', 'relevant' come what may, is the constant temptation of the man, even of the male religious. And this is precisely the basic trend in the ecclesiologies that present the Church as a 'People of God' committed to action, busily engaged in translating the Gospel into an action program with social, political and cultural objectives. But it is no accident if the word 'Church is of feminine gender. In her, in fact, lives the mystery of motherhood, of gratitude, of contemplation, of beauty, of values in short that appear useless in the eyes of the profane world. Without perhaps being fully conscious of the reasons, the woman religious feels the deep disquiet of living a Church where Christianity is reduced to an ideology of doing, according to that strictly masculine ecclesiology which nevertheless is presented-and perhaps believed- as being closer also to women and their 'modern' needs. Instead it is the project of a Church in which there is no longer any room for mystical experience, for this pinnacle of religious life which not by chance has been, through the centuries among the glories and riches offered to all in unbroken constancy and fullness, more by women than by men. Those extraordinary women whom the Church has proclaimed her 'saints', and occasionally even her 'doctors', never hesitating to propose them as an example to all Christians. An example that today is perhaps of special relevance."
SF
SF:
ReplyDeleteThanks for the info and it's said so much more eloquently than I ever could!
I tried to control myself because I wanted to post a lot more. He's insanely brilliant.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that's why he's the Pope! ;>
SF
Swiss Miss - LOL! No I did not have nails, but I may have had heat stroke. Thanks for your comments.
ReplyDeleteBarbara Nicolosi's comments were very good as well, she obviously is not arrogant! She ws very kind.
SF - Cardinal Ratzinger's understanding is wonderful, thanks for posting it in response to Swiss Miss.
I forgot. I do apologize saying Barbara was a neo-con and now I know that she is not arrogant. My insult about being a nun or a drama teacher was not kind either - my latent anti-nun bias comes out there, seeking to diminish Barbara's talents - it's a boomer thing, sorry for that! (Although, in an earlier time those were pretty much all the choices a woman had - I just hate it when I lapse into sarcasm however.)
ReplyDeleteOtherwise, I really do not take back the post - as far as women being where they are today, being due, in part, to the baby-boomer feminist. Although Barbara no longer annoys me - her response was so good, I have greater respect for her. And yes, she is not only paving the way for women, but Catholics in Hollywood as well.
I wonder if I should write about Amy now???? Kidding! Just Kidding!!!
As Beverly Sutphin would say, "Everyone has their bad days!"
Terry, please try to behave.
ReplyDeleteElena - I promise!
ReplyDeleteI have no problem with anyone who takes a few well placed shots at the boomers. I for one am sick of hearing about the 60s and the endless self congratulation that seems to aflict boomers is sickening.
ReplyDeleteDymphna - Yes, I would say the Gen-X, Y people really have it all together.
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